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      8 months ago

      Didnt you call Abbott bussing immigrants across state borders trafficking?

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        8 months ago

        Yes, because he was tricking said immigrants and using people and families as pawns to hurt political opponents, neither of which is true of Biden.

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          8 months ago

          Okay, thats not true, but you say you care about rule of law.

          What Bidens admin is doing is being a coyote. Similar thing.

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            Okay, thats not true

            What’s not true?

            What Bidens admin is doing is being a coyote. Similar thing.

            What the hell does that even mean?

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              tricking said immigrants

              That parts not true. He was using them to hurt political opponents, because illegals hurt, and hurting them was the only way to get democrats to realize that. He tried using his words for years, and then he decided that if democrats wanted them, they could have them.

              Worked brilliantly.

              What Bidens admin is doing is being a coyote. Similar thing.

              A coyote is a human smuggler, specifically one that gets illegal immigrants from Mexico to America. That’s exactly what Biden’s admin is doing.

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                That parts not true.

                Looking into it, I was remembering DeSantis’ bullshittery, as he was the one explicitly caught tricking immigrants. But regardless I doubt Abott has been any better:

                “Migrants are regularly tricked and defrauded as part of their trafficking experience, with traffickers and exploiters taking advantage of their recent arrival, limited English proficiency, and unfamiliarity with our government systems and labor laws. In a recently released study of 4,000 legal temporary workers in the United States between 2018 to 2020, Polaris found that in 34 percent of cases migrants reported that misrepresentation of destination/work situation was part of their trafficking experience.”

                https://polarisproject.org/press-releases/polariss-statement-on-recent-immigrant-relocation-and-trafficking/

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaris_Project

                He was using them to hurt political opponents, because illegals hurt, and hurting them was the only way to get democrats to realize that. He tried using his words for years, and then he decided that if democrats wanted them, they could have them.

                Worked brilliantly.

                Yeah that’s not really an accurate view of what happened. The democrats rose to the occasion to help get them housed and fed while things get worked out.

                If anything it just continues to show how cruel republicans are. When democrats are given the tired and the poor, they help them out. When republicans are given the tired and the poor they deport them and let them starve.

                A coyote is a human smuggler, specifically one that gets illegal immigrants from Mexico to America. That’s exactly what Biden’s admin is doing.

                Not really smuggling when it is public information & through humanitarian parole. And most of it isn’t from Mexico. According to the below NYT article, roughly half of the immigrants have been Ukranians.

                https://apnews.com/article/immigration-parole-trump-biden-latin-america-hungary-vietnam-cuba-venezuela-6deab463a9cc596b2cd1adc6443da787

                https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/23/us/biden-immigration-humanitarian-parole.html

                So even by your own definition your name calling isn’t accurate.

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                    New York declared a state of emergency, took 1.5 billion dollars in funds, and deployed the military. That shit worked. Heres a direct link if you dont believe me.

                    All it took was 30,000 illegals.

                    That shit “worked” because republicans were intentionally causing chaos that isn’t inherently a part of taking in refugees. I’m pretty sure I’ve already explained this to you in a different thread, but I’ll explain it again.

                    If you have 10 bags that can each hold 100 marbles, and each one is currently holding 80 marbles, you have room for 200 more marbles. But if you send 200 marbles to a single bag, the bag will break.

                    The correct move is to evenly distribute the marbles so no one bag takes on too much. But republicans are intentionally sending all 200 marbles to one bag to break it to make a point that completely misses the point democrats are making, which is that the marbles should be evenly distributed so as not to cause problems, and naturally the bags will losen/grow over time so they will eventually be able to handle more.

                    But every time any immigration reform comes to the table to fix this issue, republicans shoot it down in congress.

                    You guys are intentionally preventing a solution, while intentionally causing more problems because you’re unhappy there isn’t a solution. The “playing chess with a pigeon” phrase doesn’t do it justice to explain what clowns republicans representatives are acting like on this issue.

                    Can refugees murder people? No? Then the laws still apply to them.

                    I never suggested otherwise.