• Black AOC@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    94·
    9 months ago

    God that fuckin thread. Someone in there really straight-up pulled a “I honestly think the world is split into the greater and the lesser; and the latter exists to serve the former” and had the unmitigated settler gall to take offense when people compared him to a nazi/eugenicist.

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      7·
      9 months ago

      Greater at what?? You can be the LeBron James of torture but why would I want to live in a society that actualizes your talent? These people power scale societies based off of IQ or something and even given that it predicts your capacity to be a scientist or a freeze-gamer, eventually you’re going to want someone to build something. Without the proper care and attention given to the artistic vision and conviction to humanities they’re going to build the skyscrapers amd urban sprawls you hate so much. The hierarchical vision you had manifested as shit and nonsense. That instinct betrays you

  • RyanGosling [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    80·
    9 months ago

    Is OP stupid or living under a rock? We already have socialism in America. Joe Biden is a card carrying CCP member. Obama is the most influential Marxist after Lenin and Marx himself.

    California and New York are the staunchest communist states we have.

    The Democratic Party has always been socialist, and the GOP is loyal to Putin.

    The US is the only successful socialist country. Period.

    • GriffithDidNothingWrong [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      30·
      9 months ago

      Look, just because the most influential philosopher of the last thousand years spent his life explaining it and libraries of books have been written about his work with still more books written about those books, doesn’t mean that they can be expected to know what it means. They need you to explain it and respond to all their dumbass questions

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      16·
      9 months ago

      I attribute this to my uncle, though it was years ago. I was butting heads about communism. I stopped for a moment to ask him what socialism is. I don’t even think he said it’s when the government does stuff; he just said it’s when taxes are 70%. It gave me the clarity of mind to just give him the thumbs up and go do something else because he wasn’t going to listen and he’d never agree with me because he was adamant and ignorant

  • dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    74·
    9 months ago

    OP in that thread has some real bangers in their comment history like “not going into debt is Marxist activism”

    On the subject of Marxism, if people stopped getting into debt a lot less money would be flowing to the top. Banks would have fewer profits and their power would shrink. Therefore abstaining from debt could even be considered a kind of activism. The best kind of activism really, because it actually makes you wealthier.

    Also they just straight up defend being a landlord insisting it’s a ton of work lmao.

  • NewLeaf [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    69·
    9 months ago

    I don’t think I can take much more of this. Everything is getting so watered down, even though there are fucking definitions and volumes of books written on everything.

    Fucking EVERYTHING is up for grabs, words have no meaning, and you can twist literally anything to fit your agenda, and a bunch of braying jackasses will eat it up with a gigantic spoon.

  • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    65·
    9 months ago

    it’s so weird to me how these types of people have absolutely no idea what they’re talking about yet still do it all the fucking time. Why don’t they just go talk about video games or whatever else it is they like to do?

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
        11·
        9 months ago

        Those are usually either the obnoxious quartering fans and/or obsessive minmaxer mechanoids which actively ruin games by spamming devs non stop 24/7 with their shit ideas untill devs cave in.

    • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      41·
      9 months ago

      Dunning-kruger effect. The most ignorant like being very vocal, most do really just go and talk about video games.

      • LiberalSoCalistEnglish
        30·
        9 months ago

        The synthesis is that there are those who unironically think video games are political theory. I’ve had someone (IRL but talks about reddit all the time) explain to me how Bioshock proves that far left and far right are equally bad. What the fuck is up with libs and fiction? They just take it all at face value and do zero critical analysis.

        • barrbaric [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          22·
          9 months ago

          Bioshock proves that far left and far right are equally bad

          The series does claim this, repeatedly. Andrew Ryan is a libertarian dumbfuck and evil. Fontaine is a fascist and evil. The unions are gullible rubes that Fontaine uses to gain power for himself. Bioshock 2’s villain is, IIRC, supposed to be communist. Bioshock Infinite shows an apartheid state to be evil, but then shows that the revolution that overthrows this apartheid is actually worse.

  • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    54·
    9 months ago

    Socialism is the transitionary stage of society between capitalism and communism.

    Socialism begins when the proletariat seize power away from the bourgeoisie, ending the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie and installing the dictatorship of the proletariat. This is the meaningful point at which the transition between capitalism and communism has begun, the point at which the capitalists are not in power, but instead the working class.

    All states that achieve this status are socialist states in practice. The varying unique conditions each country finds themselves in will define what economic and transitional policies they undertake, which will look very different depending on the strategy they’re pushed into by the varying conditions.

      • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        13·
        9 months ago

        Ultimately capitalism began when the bourgeoisie seized power from the monarchs and developed a system that was designed around empowering them. The development of the capitalist economic system comes after the seizure of power and develops around the resistances and problems it encounters.

        The same can be said of socialism. It begins when the proletariat seize power but what it becomes is a process of time and development. The obsession people have with full central planning vs markets vs something else is not as important as the seizure of power and construction of institutions that maintain that power.

  • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    541·
    9 months ago

    Socialism is when the goverment does stuff, the more it does the more socialist it is. If it does a whole lotta of stuff, its communism.

    • NoLeftLeftWhereILive [none/use name, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      30·
      9 months ago

      Oh boy what a thread. Amazing to see all that Finland talk, I so wish those people do choose to come to the Nordics.

      Let them come without knowing the language. Tbf if poor and unemployed they can never even get in. If no language = no job so poverty and working for 9€/day mandatorily for your unemployment is your life very fast. Can also clean toilets/pick vegetables for such a small pay it won’t even be enough to house you.

      Also no real healthcare unless rich.

      They will see the true colours of these socdem fascist shitholes decorated with niceness real fast.

  • Call Me Mañana@lemmy.mlEnglish
    41·
    9 months ago

    This per si is a very individualistic/liberal way to see the matter! I would love to live in Cuba, for example, since I understand Spanish pretty well, yet, if I am a true socialist, it means that I want mankind to live in socialism and after, communism. The best way to do it is to fight for revolution in my country.