Was thinking about how sometimes a therapist can give bad advice, and if you’re not thinking about the situation clearly, how would you know? Clearly the solution is to see a bunch of them concurrently, like a therapist RAID setup

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    This is specifically why therapists are trained to never really give advice. They just listen and try to help you see your way through.

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        Tell me more about this impulse you have to ask about people’s feelings

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          I’m sensing a bit of role confusion in the room. Has this therapist career delusion been negatively affecting your sleep?

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            Sir, you can take this olanzapine willingly or we can strap you to the chair and forcibly inject you. Which is it going to be? No, you cannot leave.

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      A therapist once said that the only thing we could actually work on was our own relationship which we formed through the course of therapy. I didn’t really understand what that meant but it worried me since we only talked one hour a week and I was struggling through serious life relationships like family and romantic partners and I never saw how the in-therapy relationship could possibly catch up to those, especially since we didn’t actually do anything together except talk about other people.

      A few months into seeing this therapist, she had barely said a word to me the entire time. I asked “so, I’ve been spending these past weeks and months sort of downloading everything that’s going on. At what point will you start giving me feedback or reacting to what I’m saying?”

      She clicked out her pen and said “oh interesting… do you enter every relationship saying ‘when do I get something?’”

      I’ll never patronize a full blown psychologist again - unless I’m experiencing a legit pathology, not just for processing life. I found them totally useless and way too expensive for just processing life.

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        That statement is incredibly laden with judgement and antithetical to the training of any competent therapist. sorry you had that experience

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    Just remember that RAID therapists aren’t a backup solution. You should use the 3-2-1 therapy solution for that. You should see at least three different therapists from at least two different specialties and at least one should be located at least one town over to provide off-site therapy. Maybe consider telehealth for cloud therapy?

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    If a therapist gives you any advice at all, they’re doing it wrong.

    The point of therapy is to help you think clearly.

    Everything they advise you to do should be “consider this” or “ask yourself that”. They should never be advising concrete actions. All of their advice should be about what to look at.

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      I think that’s a bit too absolute though. For instance, my therapist gave me advice on grounding when dealing with derealization. She also gave me advice on treatment programs for my addiction issues.

      I guess it’s how you define advice in this particular instance.

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        That sounds like a useful bit of procedural knowledge, not advice.

        I bet she presented is some way like “Well, if you’re interested there are some methods that are known to work …” and then waited for you to decide that it would be good to learn those.

        At least that’s how my therapists have presented such things. I’ve learned methods from them, but I haven’t heard them say “I think you should do X”.

        If a person comes and asks for advice, you say things like “I mean you gotta take care of X, so that means you’re gonna have to Y. If I were you I’d start with Z and then …”

        That’s what I mean by advice. Making decisions for them. Educating on a procedure is just making sure information is available.

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      That’s not as funny

      (also could argue one benefit of a therapist is an uninterested party vs someone who also knows your social circle)

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    There are any number of such situations where you are in the hands of an expert and don’t have the knowledge or qualifications to evaluate whether their advice is good or bad: all doctors, lawyers, professors, mechanics, plumbers, etc etc virtually any specialist.

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    Dr Phil hired a client to work for him and then later developed a relationship with her. Gotta wonder about the advice he was giving her….