This comment section is hilarious. Some people are praising his suicide simply because he was a part of the republican party, while others are saying that “no one deserves being bullied for being trans” yet what everyone seems to miss is this guy was a grade A pervert who was posting pictures of real children in his transition fetish memes that he posted online. He also stalked a local business woman and wrote erotica about taking over her life and becoming her through hormones and surgery then murdering her and replacing her. A real woman btw.
So much cognitive dissonance in this thread and I’m here for it.
Damn you really want everyone to shut up about this. It’s definitely relevant to bring up the fact that this dude made murder fantasy erotica as part of his grotesque fetish. I would wager that’s why he felt the need to kill himself, not because he was trans. It’s not doxxing to post the disgusting history of a sick person. The only thing even close to dox is his real name, which I think we can all agree doesn’t constitute as doxxing, especially if he’s a public figure.
Keep defending a pervert who harassed a woman, weirdo. Dude was posting children’s pictures in his transition fetish memes and you are full force defending him.
It’s not only a sexual harassment, but also a documented intention to kill. The guy deserves to be thrown in jail. But it worked out even better in the end.
because he holds public office and is posting pictures of children to porn sites and stalking local women? Do you not think public officials should have their disgusting misdeeds documented?
I think it’s worthwhile to question an unknown outlet. If it’s a tabloid level rag then perhaps I should doubt the pilling on, if any of the smear worthy stuff might be fabricated.
No matter the outlet, if the material is accurate, then yes it’s reasonable. However we always have to be wary of folks outright making up stuff.
You think this random conservative blog decided to write a whole fake erotic fan fiction? Which parts are you claiming to be false, they provide a lot of evidence.
I’m not claiming it to be true or false, just saying I understand why someone might sincerely ask for folks to share anything they might know about the outlet in general.
However, the stance of “well, you better have a lot of evidence to be skeptical of a random unkown outlet” seems to be setting oneself up to be a sucker to anyone from any side.
I think the issue is that the question doesn’t appear to have been asked earnestly. Preemptively answering your own question with “sounds like activism” communicates you have already formed an opinion. If you’re asking out of genuine interest, check your preconceived notions at the door and only ask the question. Just “what is this 1819 site? Are they known to be a reputable source and do they demonstrate bias?” Is a good way to ask it.
I didn’t say it was child porn. Also there are archives out there of his accounts where he posted these pictures. But sure you can cover your ears and run away if you want.
Because it would make you feel better? Or because anybody who disagrees with you automatically faces a higher standard to prove their values than anybody who agrees with you?
This is just for fun. The most prominent toddler in the sandbox is not going to change when naptime happens.
Also, “patriotic socialism” is one of those brainworms you develop when you never read political theory and just develop your politics by arguing with people on the internet. Gibberish made by children.
Most nominally communist countries resemble patriotic socialism more than the modern reinterpretation of MLism. PatSocs are closer to the true interpretation of those nations’ ideals…
The national question raised by imperialism is vastly different from brain dead “patriotic socialism”
Imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism, which means in imperialized countries it is more urgent to establish a national consciousness than a worker consciousness. MLs sometimes make a workerist error (i.e. the belief that the workers should be the focus to the exclusion of everything else) because they don’t first identify the chief contradictions. In imperialized countries there is a common struggle that unites the imperialized workers and the imperialized bourgeoisie (and the peasantry, the lumpen-proles, etc), which means national consciousness in imperialized countries is a progressive force that unites the masse. That’s been the basis of revolutionary forces from Algeria to Vietnam to China itself, and while working class organizations played a big role in all those cases it was under a national party line.
This is vastly different from trying to build socialism inside of the imperial core, so-called “patriotic socialism”. Here, we are the beneficiaries of imperialism. The superprofits of the empire are redistributed to workers in the imperial core in the form of welfare and reformism and artificially cheap commodities, which prevents a revolutionary class consciousness from ever forming. That also means that national consciousness can only ever be reactionary inside the imperial core, because it fools the workers into thinking they are united with their bourgeoisie against the imperialized masses of the world.
And don’t get it twisted, there are imperialized nations inside of the imperial core as well. The Black Nation, the First Nations, the transnational Latine diaspora, etc. They can hardly be said to be beneficiaries of imperialism, and instead, are superexploited the same as workers around the world. That’s why they fill the sweat shops and the prisons and the morgues.
As for the white working class, the beneficiaries of imperialism, then only by betraying the empire can someone actually call themselves a socialist and have it mean anything. Their patriotism only sides with oppression and empire and all its associated cruelties.
I’m drawing from Mao, Fanon, W.E.B. Du Bois to get to these conclusions. What the fuck are “patriotic socialists” reading? Tweets?
Anyway, all of that is to say, I guess I don’t just do this for fun. It’s also a useful exercise, because by shadow boxing with random encounters on the internet I can organize my thoughts and draw further conclusions I may not have otherwise. Online debate is exercise.
This comment section is hilarious. Some people are praising his suicide simply because he was a part of the republican party, while others are saying that “no one deserves being bullied for being trans” yet what everyone seems to miss is this guy was a grade A pervert who was posting pictures of real children in his transition fetish memes that he posted online. He also stalked a local business woman and wrote erotica about taking over her life and becoming her through hormones and surgery then murdering her and replacing her. A real woman btw.
So much cognitive dissonance in this thread and I’m here for it.
Read up what he did here https://1819news.com/news/item/to-say-i-was-a-stalker-would-be-a-bit-of-an-understatement-curvy-transgender-smiths-station-mayor-copeland-wrote-fiction-about-murdering-real-life-local-businesswoman-assuming-her-identity
You posted the same article multiple times in this thread. I don’t know that magazine but Wikipedia says about the source
Aren’t there more trustworthy articles than a far right news site?
Yeah, it’s a right wing propaganda rag. I wouldn’t trust them reporting the weather without somehow blaming liberals and lgbtq.
The OP buried the lede intentionally or unintentionally. Dude was a grade A creeper and a psycho.
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You clearly did not look hard enough in this thread. Plenty of people say he got what he deserved for being a republican.
I have no horse in this race. Just discussing a piece of news on a discussion forum.
Right. As if pointing out obvious ignorance is all of a sudden a Personal thing. Good job, bro, I saw the value in your comment.
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Damn you really want everyone to shut up about this. It’s definitely relevant to bring up the fact that this dude made murder fantasy erotica as part of his grotesque fetish. I would wager that’s why he felt the need to kill himself, not because he was trans. It’s not doxxing to post the disgusting history of a sick person. The only thing even close to dox is his real name, which I think we can all agree doesn’t constitute as doxxing, especially if he’s a public figure.
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Because he was a public figure caught doing disgusting things? Are you really arguing that isn’t newsworthy?
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Keep defending a pervert who harassed a woman, weirdo. Dude was posting children’s pictures in his transition fetish memes and you are full force defending him.
Dead POS. Good.
You probably shouldn’t read Steven King with that logic. Fiction is fiction. Unless you want to punish for a thoughtcrime.
He wrote it about a real woman in the area without her consent. You are being a sexual harassment apologist.
It is sexual harassment?
Yes it is. And everyone would agree it is if this person was not trans.
It’s not only a sexual harassment, but also a documented intention to kill. The guy deserves to be thrown in jail. But it worked out even better in the end.
What are you?
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because he holds public office and is posting pictures of children to porn sites and stalking local women? Do you not think public officials should have their disgusting misdeeds documented?
I think it’s worthwhile to question an unknown outlet. If it’s a tabloid level rag then perhaps I should doubt the pilling on, if any of the smear worthy stuff might be fabricated.
No matter the outlet, if the material is accurate, then yes it’s reasonable. However we always have to be wary of folks outright making up stuff.
You think this random conservative blog decided to write a whole fake erotic fan fiction? Which parts are you claiming to be false, they provide a lot of evidence.
I’m not claiming it to be true or false, just saying I understand why someone might sincerely ask for folks to share anything they might know about the outlet in general.
However, the stance of “well, you better have a lot of evidence to be skeptical of a random unkown outlet” seems to be setting oneself up to be a sucker to anyone from any side.
I think the issue is that the question doesn’t appear to have been asked earnestly. Preemptively answering your own question with “sounds like activism” communicates you have already formed an opinion. If you’re asking out of genuine interest, check your preconceived notions at the door and only ask the question. Just “what is this 1819 site? Are they known to be a reputable source and do they demonstrate bias?” Is a good way to ask it.
article doesn’t say anything about child porn. I’m thinking it’s a bullshit conservative “news” site muddying the waters.
I didn’t say it was child porn. Also there are archives out there of his accounts where he posted these pictures. But sure you can cover your ears and run away if you want.
yes you did you lying POS
I think it happens a lot more than 1819 posts about it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1819_News
The Left:
The right:
How convenient that everybody who disagrees with you is a lying cartoon.
Here’s somebody who disagrees with me, promoting ethnic cleansing.
Have fun no-true-scottsmanning them
https://lemm.ee/comment/5780085
TIL one thread you don’t like constitutes “The Left”.
If they are not your ally, go tell them that
Because it would make you feel better? Or because anybody who disagrees with you automatically faces a higher standard to prove their values than anybody who agrees with you?
Your talking point shifted from pretending leftists didn’t do this, to endorsing the leftist who did this.
If you read that as an endorsement then I’m done trying to talk to you, have fun conversing with your imagination.
“I don’t know what leftism is”
just ledditor things 🙄
Online Leftists love gatekeeping as soon as they need to gatekeep a slightly different leftist. They’re all over social media.
I could throw you some Twitter links for Leftists attacking another Leftist and making fun of her drug addiction and autism, if you want it.
Online isn’t real dude.
The most prominent account on Twitter is a self-described Patriotic Socialist who’s got political weight.
But if you really think online isn’t real life, why are you here
This is just for fun. The most prominent toddler in the sandbox is not going to change when naptime happens.
Also, “patriotic socialism” is one of those brainworms you develop when you never read political theory and just develop your politics by arguing with people on the internet. Gibberish made by children.
Most nominally communist countries resemble patriotic socialism more than the modern reinterpretation of MLism. PatSocs are closer to the true interpretation of those nations’ ideals…
Glad you’re having fun though, I am too ;)
This is where the fun part begins:
The national question raised by imperialism is vastly different from brain dead “patriotic socialism”
Imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism, which means in imperialized countries it is more urgent to establish a national consciousness than a worker consciousness. MLs sometimes make a workerist error (i.e. the belief that the workers should be the focus to the exclusion of everything else) because they don’t first identify the chief contradictions. In imperialized countries there is a common struggle that unites the imperialized workers and the imperialized bourgeoisie (and the peasantry, the lumpen-proles, etc), which means national consciousness in imperialized countries is a progressive force that unites the masse. That’s been the basis of revolutionary forces from Algeria to Vietnam to China itself, and while working class organizations played a big role in all those cases it was under a national party line.
This is vastly different from trying to build socialism inside of the imperial core, so-called “patriotic socialism”. Here, we are the beneficiaries of imperialism. The superprofits of the empire are redistributed to workers in the imperial core in the form of welfare and reformism and artificially cheap commodities, which prevents a revolutionary class consciousness from ever forming. That also means that national consciousness can only ever be reactionary inside the imperial core, because it fools the workers into thinking they are united with their bourgeoisie against the imperialized masses of the world.
And don’t get it twisted, there are imperialized nations inside of the imperial core as well. The Black Nation, the First Nations, the transnational Latine diaspora, etc. They can hardly be said to be beneficiaries of imperialism, and instead, are superexploited the same as workers around the world. That’s why they fill the sweat shops and the prisons and the morgues.
As for the white working class, the beneficiaries of imperialism, then only by betraying the empire can someone actually call themselves a socialist and have it mean anything. Their patriotism only sides with oppression and empire and all its associated cruelties.
I’m drawing from Mao, Fanon, W.E.B. Du Bois to get to these conclusions. What the fuck are “patriotic socialists” reading? Tweets?
Anyway, all of that is to say, I guess I don’t just do this for fun. It’s also a useful exercise, because by shadow boxing with random encounters on the internet I can organize my thoughts and draw further conclusions I may not have otherwise. Online debate is exercise.
Stfu with your dumbass propaganda.
I found a Leftist promoting ethnic cleansing right here.
https://lemm.ee/comment/5780085