Huh? I haven’t seen that at all. They existed for years before there were all these instances, they weren’t even federated. They’d survive just as well on their own even if every instance blocked them.
The point I was making was less about activity within hexbear, more about their activity in other instances. In the instances they’re still federated with, I see fewer hexbear comments but instead comments from lemmy.ml and some others that sound like hexbear users.
Do you guys ever even hear yourselves? It’s almost impossible to mock you because it would be indistinguishable from the actual nonsense you come up with.
I like how you tried to make me feel uncomfortable by informing me that all the tankie dipshits laugh at me… MF, they call for me to be nuked based on skin color. Should I want their respect?! You’re delusional.
I seem to notice a lot of discussions about Hexbear. Since my instance preemptively defederated from you, I have some questions. What is the objective/goal of Hexbear? Currently, I kinda feel old 4chan trolling vibes.
Lol my instance has never been defederated from hexbear, which is, I’m guessing, why you signed up for lemm.ee also. I was mainly referring to hexbear activity outside of their own instance - even in instances that hexbear is still federated with, I see fewer hexbear comments than before they were defederated by world and SJW. Instead, I see new users from instances still federated with hexbear (eg lemmy.ml) talking like hexbear users.
More than anything, the thing that annoys me most about hexbear is the double standards. They claim to be open for discussion, but the majority of users are not, they behave childishly. The moderators are often far worse. Many posts openly encourage brigading, rather than just discussing an image of someone’s comment they want to criticise, they keep the username in and sometimes even include direct links.
Lemm.ee is a lovely place run by a top admin who really knows his stuff (he introduces new features early but also only when they work, and he was key in helping with some of the major issues that affected other intances, even though his instance was immune to begin with). I’m a little wary of hexbear infiltration but accept it, because that’s what having an open and widely federated instance is all about.
open discussion is for those who are there in good faith, there is no tolerance for liberalism.
You contradicted yourself before you even finished your sentence. How can you be open to good faith conversation when you jump to shut down conversations you don’t like?
I gotta say its a shame you a lib, you seem to actually stick to your guns even when it comes to us
Your bastardisation of terminology points to being part of a cult, you have a set of words that have specific meanings only held by your clique.
That’s exactly how I argue, I present ideas in the hope they will be challenged - because if I’m proven wrong I will come out knowing more than I went in. However, if you get shut down with cliquey slurs then there is no challenge nor anything productive from the conversation. In the sea of that I have had a few good, in depth conversations with a couple people on hexbear - but they get drowned out.
Censoring for bigotry, nazism, and various other things are often bullshit excuses. This isn’t unique to hexbear, though, you can see it in a lot of modlogs - the reason doesn’t match up with the comment. For example:
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A big flaw in the modlog is you can’t always see which community or thread it was from. So half the time when you see “Rule x” or whatever given as the reason for a comment removal you can’t even tell which community’s rules was allegedly broken.
Hexbear at least do give reasons, but you end up with things like “xxx apologia” even when the comments have nothing to do with “xxx” or aren’t even supporting anything - the ban is for criticising things the mods are sensitive about.
you seem very mad about this when im not even hating on ya
Mostly I’m annoyed at the misuse of the term “lib” as some sort of childish dismissal, one that doesn’t hold up to real scrutiny. But, half the point of hurling it is to be annoying, so there isn’t really any point in trying to address it.
If you worked harder and made less comments online maybe your environmentalist org could fix the climate? Idk that’s just the opinion I was spoon fed by the capitalists or something.
He just admitted it is personal in his reply below. None of the things he mentions here are factual. We are in good contact with the admins on most if not all instances. Even some of those we defederated with.
And they are worse than reddit mods with their behavior. They usually use dummy accounts.
Just look into the modlog for a while.
Also they are antisemitic and have no fucking knowledge about how lemmy works, thinking they can IP ban users from other instances and similar things like harassing other instance admins and users with several accounts.
We are antisematic? We harass other instance admins? IP bans don’t even make sense on Lemmy due to federation and you can not get the IP of posters on another instance.
You are so full of it. We are in good contact with most if not all instances and their admins.
The only truthful thing you said is that it is personal.
I permabanned your account on Lemmy World so you don’t have to get triggered anymore by the ‘shit admins’.
Edit: this account is an alt of . Moderator over at Loli/pedo instance burggit.moe which is why he didn’t want to give me his main account when asked.
Hamas is an israeli creation to justify extermination. If youre supporting hamas, youre supporting israels completely see through excuse for genocide.
You arent anti colonialism, youre pro knee jerk. Any stance thats asking for more death is pro israel, and that makes you just as supportive of them as any christian reactionary.
I have no problem with Tankie takes on Israel. They see this side clearly. My problem is when your favorite youtubers and twitter lefties are saying “Hamas is good actually, and Israeli Settlers deserve it” like for fucks sake. Tankies call for violence more than they call for leftist solutions.
I don’t know about world, but many instances defederated from hexbear at the request of their communities due to harassment from hexbear users in other instances communities. Lemmygrad was defederated for the same reason at that time as well.
By removing lemmy.world you remove half of Lemmy’s content. Bad idea
And by removing hexbear you remove the other half
Difference being that lemmy.world is willing to engage in good faith as opposed to Hexbear which is perpetually bloodthirsty and hateful.
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someone’s still upset at being called a chaser and having their actual trans population migrate
Mate your takes are not hot they are just shit. What does this even mean.
lol username
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Friend go back to rdrama
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… huh?
Also ‘willing to engage’ lemmy.world defederated preemptively as a last resort
Yes ofcourse we defederated preemptively from Hexbear. You can make an account there no need for you on LW
Hexbear activity seems to have dropped significantly since no one wants to be federated with them. Most of the users now lurk in other instances.
Huh? I haven’t seen that at all. They existed for years before there were all these instances, they weren’t even federated. They’d survive just as well on their own even if every instance blocked them.
The point I was making was less about activity within hexbear, more about their activity in other instances. In the instances they’re still federated with, I see fewer hexbear comments but instead comments from lemmy.ml and some others that sound like hexbear users.
lol the instance that went unfederated for three years needs federation to be active okay
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Do you guys ever even hear yourselves? It’s almost impossible to mock you because it would be indistinguishable from the actual nonsense you come up with.
Stick to the echo chamber.
What’s nonsense about that comment?
If you ever want a good example of sealioning, here it is!
…where?
That’s not sealioning.
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Lol you give a good example of what can be avoided by blocking tankie instances. Thanks for the meltdown.
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Lol yea sure buddy.
Donald Trump is a communist.
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And you’re clearly mad about it.
woof
I like how you tried to make me feel uncomfortable by informing me that all the tankie dipshits laugh at me… MF, they call for me to be nuked based on skin color. Should I want their respect?! You’re delusional.
I seem to notice a lot of discussions about Hexbear. Since my instance preemptively defederated from you, I have some questions. What is the objective/goal of Hexbear? Currently, I kinda feel old 4chan trolling vibes.
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Sanest hexbear user
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Lol my instance has never been defederated from hexbear, which is, I’m guessing, why you signed up for lemm.ee also. I was mainly referring to hexbear activity outside of their own instance - even in instances that hexbear is still federated with, I see fewer hexbear comments than before they were defederated by world and SJW. Instead, I see new users from instances still federated with hexbear (eg lemmy.ml) talking like hexbear users.
More than anything, the thing that annoys me most about hexbear is the double standards. They claim to be open for discussion, but the majority of users are not, they behave childishly. The moderators are often far worse. Many posts openly encourage brigading, rather than just discussing an image of someone’s comment they want to criticise, they keep the username in and sometimes even include direct links.
Lemm.ee is a lovely place run by a top admin who really knows his stuff (he introduces new features early but also only when they work, and he was key in helping with some of the major issues that affected other intances, even though his instance was immune to begin with). I’m a little wary of hexbear infiltration but accept it, because that’s what having an open and widely federated instance is all about.
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You contradicted yourself before you even finished your sentence. How can you be open to good faith conversation when you jump to shut down conversations you don’t like?
Your bastardisation of terminology points to being part of a cult, you have a set of words that have specific meanings only held by your clique.
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That’s exactly how I argue, I present ideas in the hope they will be challenged - because if I’m proven wrong I will come out knowing more than I went in. However, if you get shut down with cliquey slurs then there is no challenge nor anything productive from the conversation. In the sea of that I have had a few good, in depth conversations with a couple people on hexbear - but they get drowned out.
Censoring for bigotry, nazism, and various other things are often bullshit excuses. This isn’t unique to hexbear, though, you can see it in a lot of modlogs - the reason doesn’t match up with the comment. For example:
A big flaw in the modlog is you can’t always see which community or thread it was from. So half the time when you see “Rule x” or whatever given as the reason for a comment removal you can’t even tell which community’s rules was allegedly broken.
Hexbear at least do give reasons, but you end up with things like “xxx apologia” even when the comments have nothing to do with “xxx” or aren’t even supporting anything - the ban is for criticising things the mods are sensitive about.
Mostly I’m annoyed at the misuse of the term “lib” as some sort of childish dismissal, one that doesn’t hold up to real scrutiny. But, half the point of hurling it is to be annoying, so there isn’t really any point in trying to address it.
The shit half lawl
Hexbear is nowhere close to half of Lemmy. Even the trio of Hexbear, Lemmygrad, and Lemmy.ml are a small, angry chunk.
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141 comments in 7 hours. Damn who pissed in your cereal
They can’t get a job, a liberal took all the jobs or something idk. That’s why yhey have all the free time to comment.
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Stay mad, don’t stay unemployed.
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If you worked harder and made less comments online maybe your environmentalist org could fix the climate? Idk that’s just the opinion I was spoon fed by the capitalists or something.
StAlInIsT tRaNsItIoN
Yep sounds like a total not-idiot to me!
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Exactly. Its basically the reddit of lemmy, and the admins are assholes.
I haven’t heard of the lemmy.world admins doing much besides defederating from a few instances. Why do you feel that way about them?
He just admitted it is personal in his reply below. None of the things he mentions here are factual. We are in good contact with the admins on most if not all instances. Even some of those we defederated with.
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What other account?
I have my reasons.
And they are worse than reddit mods with their behavior. They usually use dummy accounts.
Just look into the modlog for a while.
Also they are antisemitic and have no fucking knowledge about how lemmy works, thinking they can IP ban users from other instances and similar things like harassing other instance admins and users with several accounts.
I have a personal problem with these assholes.
We are antisematic? We harass other instance admins? IP bans don’t even make sense on Lemmy due to federation and you can not get the IP of posters on another instance.
You are so full of it. We are in good contact with most if not all instances and their admins.
The only truthful thing you said is that it is personal.
I permabanned your account on Lemmy World so you don’t have to get triggered anymore by the ‘shit admins’.
Edit: this account is an alt of
. Moderator over at Loli/pedo instance burggit.moe which is why he didn’t want to give me his main account when asked.
Im not active on your instance.
Also what is my “main account”?
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Defederating hexbear is likely a legal thing as they spread antisemitism to a extent that its illegal in most countries.
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And thats obviously wrong. There are a fuck load of hexbears being very clear about their wish for Israels destruction…
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Im against you.
Hamas is an israeli creation to justify extermination. If youre supporting hamas, youre supporting israels completely see through excuse for genocide.
You arent anti colonialism, youre pro knee jerk. Any stance thats asking for more death is pro israel, and that makes you just as supportive of them as any christian reactionary.
I have no problem with Tankie takes on Israel. They see this side clearly. My problem is when your favorite youtubers and twitter lefties are saying “Hamas is good actually, and Israeli Settlers deserve it” like for fucks sake. Tankies call for violence more than they call for leftist solutions.
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A person that sides with Hamas or thinks any of their actions are justified is a gigantic pice of shit.
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You guys defederating from Lemmy.nz in a fit though, not the other way around.
I don’t know about world, but many instances defederated from hexbear at the request of their communities due to harassment from hexbear users in other instances communities. Lemmygrad was defederated for the same reason at that time as well.
Also formula1 is there
Most of it is trash and Lemmy.world becomes a walled garden.