• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    Gosh, I wonder why people being genocided by an army marching under a rainbow flag might react with hostility? 🤔

    What even is blowback? 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔

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      I don’t think their hostility to LGBT+ is because of whatever flag the Israel army uses

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        I didn’t mean to ignore the important role America plays in spreading queer hate around the world too! Israel just plays a special role in this conflict.

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          I wasn’t talking about the US but rather faith and culture based reasons.

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            Faith and culture arise from the material conditions of society. The way religion is interpreted and the form culture takes are shaped by economics, politics, and other base structures.

            There’s a reason Christianity is so different in different countries and time periods, even though the book never changes.

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              When preachers are preaching hate, I think sometimes it’s fair to say it is faith based hate.

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                But why are they preaching hate? They all preach from the same book, yet some preach hate and some preach compassion. You have to grapple with what makes the same religion different in different places and different times, and that comes down to the material conditions of society.

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                  Islam isn’t that different all over the world in this subject though.

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    does iof has a mechanism for differentiating queer people when targeting gaza? no, they slaughter indiscriminately.

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      But you can’t get same-sex married in the Muslim world either? So it’s not like they have a leg up on that.

      Dunno about their or Israeli position on jewish/muslim couples.

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    In the comments some idiot is quoting the Torah as evidence that Judaism is inherently more tolerant of trans people than Islam and no one is mentioning the Torah is a holy book in both Judaism and Islam

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      It is my understanding that Iran covers costs of transition whereas Israel doesn’t because their definition of gender dysphoria is too strict. Until earlier this year, Israel authorized only one guy for bottom surgeries for trans women, so the wait lists are very long. In 2008, the BBC claimed Iran carried out the second most sex change operations in the world behind Thailand.

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        Iran carried out the second most sex change operations in the world behind Thailand.

        We should share that factoid more often, learning that muh Iran islamist dictatorship has better trans policies than any of their oh so grand democracies would fry a lot of liberal brain.

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            Ok, but still, pointing out that none of the western countries can be bothered to have better trans care than Iran would either make them think or cope and seethe.

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            It’s strange, of course the context is important and can’t be ignored by pointing to figures without explanation. Yet if LIB have a greater understanding and it comes from the right place, what good reason could there be for a lack of progress on their end? That there is too much freedom and that means certain fundamental rights and unambiguous (scientifically speaking, ofc scientific consensus at one point in the past had conversion therapy as its preferred method, there can be deferral to moral and ethical considerations in such cases) truths get caught in the crossfire because of freeze-peach

            The more I try to think about it the more contradictions there are…

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      Judaism is inherently more tolerant of trans people than Islam

      Even if that was true that’s not why people are opposing what Israel has been doing to the Palestinians you dipshits monke-rage

      Liberals boil it down to being about whether “the Jews” or “the Muslims” are more virtuous and more deserving of sympathy as groups stalin-stressed

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    So I’m just supposed to uncritically up a bunch of genocidal colonizers committing literal genocide while bearing a flag of one of my communities as a stark-and-obvious part of the standard of their genocide? No fuckin surprise Palestine is considered ‘homophobic’ if Israeli settlers are pulling this shit; if I saw that shit coming to try and take my house, I’d have to press some caps too.

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    Oh you mean that thing they changed like last week to distract the west from their now 15,000 kill total? 😂

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    CW: violence, murder, homophobia

    Someone on here literally posted like 2 weeks ago a horrific quote from some book where some iof shithead gleefully recounts killing a “terrorist” who was fucking another “terrorist” (they kept using an israeli word to dehumanize them) and how when the first one got shot the other one freaked out and how HILARIOUS it was.