• karobeccary@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Good for them. Your giant inflatable barney the dinosaur is not as important as protesting apartheid and genocide.

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      10 months ago

      Really? Because both barney and that shit are equally fictional things to be concerned about

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        10 months ago

        Liberals always call it a genocide. Worst genocide ever since the Palestinian population is one of the fastest growing populations in the world. They use words but don’t understand their meaning.

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          10 months ago

          I fail to see how the birth rate factors into the idea of a genocide. Those are not mutually exclusive things. Genocide only implies the intention to kill a group of people, in whole OR IN PART.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide Here is a rundown of the meaning and history of the word ‘genocide’, feel free to read the article and familiarize yourself with the recorded definition.

          I’m glad I could correct your lack of understanding of the definition of the word. Far too many republicans seem not to understand the meanings of the words they use.

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            10 months ago

            I am familiar with the word. Read the first sentence of the wiki article. It is the destruction of the people. That would imply, by definition a decline in the population.

            Israel is not performing a genocide. Israel is defending themselves from people trying to destroy it.

            Nazi Germany tried to kill the Jewish people, and you will note the large population decline of Jews in Europe because of the mass killing of the Jews.

            The Palestinians on the other hand are attacking Israel and they get bombed in self-defense. Their goal is not destroying the Palestinians but only to destroy their ability to wage war against Israel.

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              10 months ago

              oh I see where you got it wrong! No, the decline or increase of a population has no bearing on genocide - it is the intentional killing of a group in whole OR IN PART.

              So the amount of babies born does not cancel out the killing of other members of the group, if the intention is to wipe out the group in whole OR IN PART.

              That is the definition of genocide, it does not in any way rely upon or even relate to the rate of birth!

              I’m glad we could clear that up, and as such that I am in fact correct that the actions of the apartheid state Israel DO in fact rise to the basic definition of the word Genocide, as defined by the common definition, the wikipedia article and the United Nations!

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                10 months ago

                In whole or part would imply a population decline.

                It is not genocide to defend yourself from terrorist attacks and rocket attacks.

                No, they do not rise to the basic definition. The UN has not declared it because it does not meet that standard.

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                  10 months ago

                  It would seem to imply that wouldn’t it, but it doesn’t actually when you think about it. After all, the holocaust would still have been a genocide EVEN IF 6 million Jewish people were also born during world war 2. I’m glad I could help you through this misunderstanding!

                  So once again, the birth rate is not at issue, has no bearing, and in fact has nothing to do with the definition of Genocide. It’s not the birth rate, thats not a thing, that has never been a thing, it does not and never has been a part of the definition of genocide.

                  It has nothing, nothing, nothing, to do with the birth rate. I hope I have stated that clearly and politely :D