• toastal@lemmy.mlEnglish
      33·
      11 months ago

      Nothing would make me more happy. I really wish it weren’t such a pain to deal with the telephony. You check devices on postmarketOS & while some devices can boot, it’s usually the actual phone part that isn’t working–which is kind of an important part. The open hardware phones work fine, but their specs are ancient while being as expensive as flagships. I still have eventual hope tho as device needs have started to plateau.

      • smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de
        16·
        11 months ago

        I believe (and this just a believe) that one Linux-first phone with actually working hardware could tip the nonstopping swing. Not for “average” user anytime in maybe even next decade, but there are a lot of people bored with current smartphones, tinkers or just wanting more privacy above than unverificable and unproven promises from Apple and Google.

        • toastal@lemmy.mlEnglish
          10·
          11 months ago

          Unfortunately given the stalemate of the mobile duopoly & service providers like banks thinking attestation is okay & what you run on your hardware is their business, Linux phones will have a hell of an uphill battle to take on. Wild to me is hearing the average Joe is happy their phones now don’t let them do whatever they want & they like the attestation since they don’t trust themselves with operating the device. These are the masses that will obviously be catered to, but maybe eventually be the only ones supported as banking websites age with little maintenance & receive no feature parity.

          • TimeSquirrel@kbin.social
            5·
            11 months ago

            “We put a padlock on your hood, so now you have no choice but to come to us for oil changes and maintenance.”

            “That’s great guys, thanks!” self flagellates

        • atomkarinca@lemmygrad.ml
          1·
          11 months ago

          i have an idol3 from 2016 and even that has all the phone capabilities (except the camera) and it’s not listed as a community grade. you would be surprised at how many phones are working fully. and with sxmo/swmo every phone ever has a chance to be a daily driver.

          i remember a time when the thing blocking linux migration was audio calling on msn messenger. it got solved but nobody cared. these things take time to go over the tipping point. hardly anybody used android when it first came out, symbian was all the hype.

          if you are willing and have a spare phone you should try postmarketos now.

    • Contend6248@feddit.de
      112·
      11 months ago

      We literally already have Linux phones, but i would love to cut some bullshit in the middle and go more upstream one day

  • the_q@lemmy.world
    61·
    11 months ago

    Imagine a full Linux desktop experience while plugged into a monitor and then a mobile experience on the go. That’s the dream.

      • butter@midwest.socialEnglish
        15·
        11 months ago

        10 years ago was the time to start, too.

        Imagine a Linux-like OS for mobile as a reasonable 3rd mobile operating system. People would run it and seem weird like when people run Linux on their laptop nowadays. 1-2% market share. Basically nothing is native to it but a handful of open source apps, but waydroid would be more complete. That would be beautiful.

        Shoot. Imagine a reasonably new phone running something Linux with a shell laptop that lets you properly converge. Linux has the best ARM support because basically anything can be complied.

    • AItoothbrush@lemmy.zipEnglish
      5·
      11 months ago

      I have a sd8 gen 2 phone and with this amount of power i wouldnt even need a laptop. I mainly use mine for programming and school work but the most i see on it is 30% and i think this phone could handle it. Maybe compiling is a different story…

    • aluminium@lemmy.world
      51·
      11 months ago

      Samsung offered this for a short while with Linux on Dex. You could easily run a lightweight Ubuntu Desktop container when plugged in. Sadly they removed it after a few months.

      • LoganXan@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        11 months ago

        What are you saying they removed here? I’m using Dex with a Z Fold4 as I type this. Don’t even have a laptop or desktop anymore. All I ever need is my phone nowadays.

      • smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de
        1·
        11 months ago

        But it won’t integrate that much. You won’t get exactly the same app on mobile and desktop in environment mixed like that.

    • ikidd@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      11 months ago

      You can get this with a Pinephone and a USB-C dock. Both experiences leave a lot to be desired, but it’s there.

      • Gecko@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        11 months ago

        As someone who owns a PinePhone I can tell you that a lot more work needs to be done first. postmarketOS is ok but being Alpine based means you have to forever deal with all the issues that come with it including its primitive package manager. And mobian also kept breaking ever other half a year or so requiring manual config changes etc.

        What we need IMO, is a more reliable spin like Fedora, maybe even something immutable like Silverblue to ensure the stability required for a daily driver device while also being quick to deploy the latest versions of releases.

        There’s also the whole app ecosystem aspect but between advances in Waydroid and convergent GTK apps, I’m more concerned about the underlying base OS than the app ecosystem ^^

        • Norah - She/They@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          3·
          11 months ago

          The NexDock is a laptop dock for Dex with a 44Wh battery built in and a 13.3” screen. They’re only $269. They’re launching an XL model next year for only $299 with a 57Wh battery and a 15.6” screen. They both have a touch screen and a 360° hinge.

  • MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world
    253·
    11 months ago

    I would love to be able to use a Linux mobile as my primary but I know that’s not going to happen, unfortunately.

        • viking@infosec.pub
          82·
          11 months ago

          Is there any specific use case for the app that you don’t get with the mobile website?

          I’ve figured out that my bank’s app is basically a wrapper for the mobile website, the only thing they added being fingerprint login.

          Instantly deleted the app and use the website now, one less thing that can potentially spy on me.

          • SciPiTie @iusearchlinux.fyi
            12·
            11 months ago

            I have several bank accounts and at least here they all use their dedicated app for mandatory 2fa - Bastards…

            And yes, literally: don’t want to use our app? Don’t get an account with us!

            • lambipapp@lemmy.world
              3·
              11 months ago

              Everything in Sweden is authenticated through the same app ‘BankID’. We even have our passports in there.

              • SciPiTie @iusearchlinux.fyi
                1·
                11 months ago

                Not saying that I’m jealous or anything but… I am. Please insert here a personal insult that would offend you adequately!

          • PixxlMan@lemmy.world
            1·
            11 months ago

            Would a banking app with specific authentication requirements really work through that though? Reliably too?

      • chayleaf@lemmy.ml
        7·
        11 months ago

        what do you even mean “don’t support encryption”? Do you mean FDE? In that case PostmarketOS supports it, and you can get any other distro to use FDE if you tinker hard enough

      • MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world
        1·
        11 months ago

        I believe PostmarketOS with the PinePhone Pro is a decent experience. Nope, it’s not. Don’t get it if you don’t want to contributr your time to the project. With that said, I’m not too confident on its usability, 2 years after its release. What do you run and what has your experience been like?

    • Contend6248@feddit.de
      3·
      11 months ago

      Maybe some tech giant pumping money in a 3rd eco-system would help, i think it’s very likely to happen one day

    • frathiemann@feddit.de
      1·
      11 months ago

      I am using the PinePhonePro as my primary phone for over a year now. There are of course some challanges but it is definitly possible

  • trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    13·
    11 months ago

    I’m getting “Android Gingerbread on an HTC EVO” vibes, which is not a bad thing. It stands out, in a good way.

  • Piwix
    5·
    11 months ago

    Love the look of this, would love to be able to use this on my current phone

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldBEnglish
    35·
    11 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    While there has been much talk this year about KDE Plasma 6.0 on the desktop as it gears up for release at the end of February, there’s been less talk about the Plasma Mobile work for having the KDE stack on smartphones.

    But it turns out some progress is quietly being made on KDE Plasma Mobile for bringing it aligned with the “6” platform.

    KDE developer Devin Lin has been among those involved in working on upgrading the Plasma Mobile stack and ensuring everything is ported over to Qt6, compatible with KDE Frameworks 6, and jiving with the other KDE Plasma 6 components.

    Porting the Plasma Mobile shell to Qt 6 was “fairly trivial” while it’s been more of a challenge on the application side.

    This work has also led to some other changes like moving the task switcher from the shell to a self-contained KWin effect, a rewrite to the default homescreen, a new plasma-mobile-envmanager service, a new plasma-mobile-initial-start application, a docked mode, and other enhancements.

    Those wishing to learn more about the Plasma Mobile 6 work can do so via Devin’s blog.

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      • Fizz@lemmy.nz
        2·
        11 months ago

        I’m thinking of desktop plasma mainly. It seems to complicated to be moving and customizing Taskbars on a phone. Plasma is janky enough on pc.

        • eliasp@feddit.de
          3·
          11 months ago

          That’s why Plasma is built to support different shells, optimized for different form factors which allows to do this stuff like the Netbook shell in the past or now Plasma Bigscreen for TVs or Plasma Mobile for smartphones.

    • /home/pineapplelover
      5·
      11 months ago

      I understand your concerns but if you can run it in a raspberry pi then I feel like running it on a phone should be fine