’ “To this day, we have no information from the school or from the Precinct 3, the Constable,” Aaliyah’s father, Mark Zarate, said. "No type of paperwork as to what she was charged with. ’
If this quote is true I’d expect a citation for the charges pretty soon after if not immediately when picking up my child from Juvenile Detention. Otherwise it would seem like they illegally held my child with no official wrong doing.
So again the article is not detailed but, at this time it doesn’t appear that she has been charged with anything. The police are not the ones that issue criminal charges, that is the DA. The police are responsible for arrests and citations.
It appears that she was arrested, processed and released pending charges. The child was definitely not held illegally as there is usually some period of time that someone can be held without charges. Again this feels like overkill in this case l, but is protocol.
This is not an issue of police overreach but one design of the system.
People who enforce a wretched system become the system. Without them, there is no system. This is an other instance of police cruelty and stupidity, regardless of whether it’s ‘protocol’.
At my school in a saner era, kids who pulled false alarms were sent to detention, not the police station and juvenile hall for fingerprints.
It’s the policy. It happened to me too as a kid. On one hand, it can prevent future criminals, giving kids a dose of reality. It’s obviously a bit excessive, but it’s not terrible either.
On one hand, it can prevent future criminals, giving kids a dose of reality
Though it’s conventional “wisdom”, it hasn’t been proven that excessive punishment lowers recidivism.
In fact, it’s been proven to cause trauma, which RAISES the risk of recidivism and acceleration from mischief to more serious trouble.
it’s not terrible either.
Wrong. It’s abusive and likely to traumatize that poor girl as well as poison her future relationships with all authority figures, including positive ones.
Not to mention that anyone is more likely to learn how to be a better criminal in US prisons than be rehabilitated, regardless of age.
Wrong. It’s abusive and likely to traumatize that poor girl as well as poison her future relationships with all authority figures, including positive ones.
This is a shame, but all kids should be taught to question authority as well, even if they’ve only had positive experiences with authority.
Well not a lot of details in the article but it is quite possible that they did follow policy. Which doesn’t make it better.
’ “To this day, we have no information from the school or from the Precinct 3, the Constable,” Aaliyah’s father, Mark Zarate, said. "No type of paperwork as to what she was charged with. ’
If this quote is true I’d expect a citation for the charges pretty soon after if not immediately when picking up my child from Juvenile Detention. Otherwise it would seem like they illegally held my child with no official wrong doing.
So again the article is not detailed but, at this time it doesn’t appear that she has been charged with anything. The police are not the ones that issue criminal charges, that is the DA. The police are responsible for arrests and citations.
It appears that she was arrested, processed and released pending charges. The child was definitely not held illegally as there is usually some period of time that someone can be held without charges. Again this feels like overkill in this case l, but is protocol.
This is not an issue of police overreach but one design of the system.
People who enforce a wretched system become the system. Without them, there is no system. This is an other instance of police cruelty and stupidity, regardless of whether it’s ‘protocol’.
At my school in a saner era, kids who pulled false alarms were sent to detention, not the police station and juvenile hall for fingerprints.
We were just following orders!
It’s the policy. It happened to me too as a kid. On one hand, it can prevent future criminals, giving kids a dose of reality. It’s obviously a bit excessive, but it’s not terrible either.
Though it’s conventional “wisdom”, it hasn’t been proven that excessive punishment lowers recidivism.
In fact, it’s been proven to cause trauma, which RAISES the risk of recidivism and acceleration from mischief to more serious trouble.
Wrong. It’s abusive and likely to traumatize that poor girl as well as poison her future relationships with all authority figures, including positive ones.
Not to mention that anyone is more likely to learn how to be a better criminal in US prisons than be rehabilitated, regardless of age.
This is a shame, but all kids should be taught to question authority as well, even if they’ve only had positive experiences with authority.
Agree to disagree.
Kids + police don’t always result in a lesson learned: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/15/aderrien-murry-police-shot-911-family-vows-fight-justice