The Seattle Children’s Hospital filed a lawsuit in Travis County District Court on Dec. 7 against the Texas Office of the Attorney General (OAG), after that agency requested documents related to gender transition policies and any such care provided to Texas children.
Why in the Kentucky fried fuck is Texas asking Seattle about that.
We all know why. I’m just surprised the hospital responded with a lawsuit instead of a “go fuck yourself.”
It does bring more attention if they drag out the go fuck yourself bit with a lawsuit but they definitely need a huge go fuck yourself with a rake letter here.
I’ve got a nice rusty pitchfork they could use in a pinch.
Both demands include a notice that failure to comply could result in a misdemeanor criminal charge that would carry a $5,000 fine or jail confinement of up to a year.
It sounds like the state could imprison the hospital’s personnel if they ever traveled to Texas (or any other jurisdiction that might jail them on Texas’ behalf).
Yeah I said that this was the inevitable outcome of RvW being overturned. It’s a matter of time now. The line of the ensuing civil war will be drawn over these state extradition agreements, and if a Republican ever gets the presidency again they will use the feds to forcibly extradite doctors to Texas.
Holy fuck I need to get out of Texas
The time is now or as soon as you can.
I gotta say I figured they’d use interstate extradition to bring back women who’d left for an abortion. I did not think they’d be dumb enough to try and act like their laws apply to hospital staff in other states.
We have a law in Washington which prevents healthcare providers from sharing the information that the Texas attorney general is requesting. I love my state.
I’m reading between the lines a bit, but I think the idea is that Texas thinks SCH is providing care that violated Texas law via telemedicine. That’s why they’re asking about stuff like patients of SCH who had their labs done in Texas.
Suck a dick, Texas.
Texas government*
So the people that elect the asshats that run Texas get a pass?
No, but there’s not as many of them as you might think. TX is gerrymandered to hell, voter suppression abounds, and so many people don’t think beyond the R it’s astounding. The Republicans have created an environment where they almost can’t help but stay in power. If everyone eligible to vote in TX was able to do so properly, the state would look a lot more purple. Source: born in TX & lived 2/3 of my life there before I got out.
Gerrymandering sure affects them state offices like AG a ton
You forgot the other issues they mentioned.
That’s fair. I was letting my frustration out, but I know what you said is a reality.
The people who elect the ass hats aren’t representative of all Texans, and they’re dying off.
Texas is becoming more and more blue every day, which is why the government is doing everything they can to suppress Democrat voters.
they’re dying off.
Well then, fuck Texas until the people electing asshats die off. We’re waiting with bated breath.
Texas should just get it over with and invade America so we can put them back in their place where they belong
Greg Abbott was famously one of the dingleberries fooled by Russian propaganda about operation Jade Helm and instructed the Texas national guard to “watch over” the operation as if they matter at all in the considerations of a joint millitary nation-wide operation. In other words, their delusions are already most of the way there.
Southern dingalings in general.
I continue to be annoyed that texas is wasting all of this time on this. Go solve real problems. Except republicans are seemingly incapable of that, so I guess this is what we get.
States rights!!
(Republicans: not like that!)
Man, it sure is nice that Texas doesn’t have any other issues it needs to deal with, like it’s power grid or anything. Suuuuure must be nice to be elected and get to spend all your time doing zany bullshit that helps no one.
State’s Rights! But also we need access to every state’s PEDIATRIC HEALTHCARE RECORDS!
Why do they have to sue? Why do they have to respond at all? Texas isn’t Washington and not only is there no jurisdiction, there’s no standing for the courts either.
Because Texas threatens criminal prosecution for anyone who does not comply. And these people are probably concerned that if they just say no and don’t sue, they will most likely face criminal litigation in Texas that could cause arrest warrants that could affect them if and when they travel.
Also, because under Washington state law, it would be illegal for them to comply with the Texas attorney general in this case.
Right but outside of issuing an arrest warrant in the state of Texas, what else could they do? They are not federal and have no greater authority.
So you think it’s totally fine that people just doing their fully legal job in the state they live and work in should be subjected to arrest warrants that prevent them from ever safely entering a completely different state?
“Sorry boss, I can’t go to that conference. It’s hosted in Texas and I’ll be arrested as I exit the plane.”
Could Texas not also have extradition treaties with other red states, so now when you travel to Alabama and get a speeding ticket, you get sent over to Texas?
Yeah, could potentially make a lot of states unsafe to go to because you “broke” a law you weren’t subject to.
It’s not possible to break the law like that. Imagine that someone shoots someone in the middle of 5th Avenue (who could that be?). Only the state of New York can prosecute them. They haven’t committed any crime in any other states.
It’s the same thing here. You can’t prosecute without jurisdiction. If Osama Bin Laden went to Texas they couldn’t prosecute him there. I don’t know why Texans think they can prosecute things that happen elsewhere in the world.
You’re assuming they use their court system in good faith.
What if someone operates a drone, flies the drone from NJ to NY and has the drone shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue? That’s a lot closer to what Texas is reaching for with this - they think this hospital in WA is doing things illegal in TX via telemedicine. Hence asking for things like patients at this WA hospital who did their labs in TX.
That’s actually an interesting question. Reading further about this case it sounds like they’re looking for evidence that the hospital was providing care not permitted in TX to patients in TX via telemedicine. Hence why they are asking for things like patients who had their labs done in TX - you don’t generally have your labs done 2000 miles away from your doctor in cases other than telemedicine.
I have no idea whether that means TX or WA law applies.
I never made a judgement on the outcome.
There’s a whole thing about interstate extradition. The same way that Florida is obligated under federal law if NY issues an arrest warrant.
It was discussed in detail a while back when a number of Florida politicians acted like they could protect Trump.
Well, it would probably land in front of the Supreme Court but they could then attempt to have the hospital workers extradited to Texas. States extradite people as a routine matter but I gotta think Washington would probably refuse this time.
I think the Texas AG has that whole “full faith and credit” thing backwards.
