Over 80 percent of new cars sold in Norway were electric in 2023::New figures released by the Norwegian Road Federation say 82.4 percent of new cars sold in the country last year were electric, up from 79.3 percent in 2022. Tesla, Toyota, and Volkswagen were the most popular brands, with Tesla’s Model Y making up almost a fifth of new sales. Reuters notes that Norway intends to end the sale of new petrol and diesel cars in 2025.

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    9 months ago

    Norway has been pretty famously aggressive with incentives for EVs, but remember, Norway is a petro state. Half of Norway’s exports are fossil fuels.

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      9 months ago

      Half of value of exported goods come from fossil fuels. Exported services constitute almost as much value as goods. Hence more like 1/4 of exports. Also, many norwegian companies have their business functions abroad and therefore do not contribute to these export numbers at all.

      Source SSB, official norwegian statistics

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    9 months ago

    Which undermines the argument that EVs don’t work in cold weather. They are just less efficient.

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    9 months ago

    80% of microplastics in the oceans are from car wheels. Electric cars are only slightly better for the environment than ICEs, but no personal vehicle will ever be sustainable. We need to upgrade public transportation to handle our transportational needs, and we need this upgrade process to start years ago.

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      9 months ago

      Electric cars are only slightly better for the environment than ICEs

      They are much, much better than ICEs on emissions when fueled with renewable electricity.

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        The problem is ppl forget that manufacturing of EVS adds to the climate crisis too. REDUCE and REUSE. Ideally we should be reducing the use of personal cars and focus on public transport. That an reusing older model cars (even ICE’s) that are more fuel efficient

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          I agree that we should pour more energy and resources into expanding public transportation. But I think it’s very important to make personal transportation more efficient as well, especially if we want conservatives onboard. And we do need everyone onboard on this.

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      9 months ago

      I agree, but I think a more attainable solution is to try to find a better way of disposing of car tires and garbage in general rather than trying to reduce / remove cars from the streets. We should be doing both though.

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    AFAIK Toyota Yaris doesn’t exist as an EV, only Hybrid (and ICE).
    Hybrid is not electric, it’s not ICE either, that’s why it’s called Hybrid!
    But the Yaris isn’t even a proper plugin Hybrid, because it’s “self charging” meaning it drives on gasoline that is used to make the electricity to drive. You can’t even charge it!!! If you put Gas/Petrol in it to drive, it’s not an electric, it’s not even a hybrid, it’s a gasoline/petrol car!!!

    Especially law makers need to get that through their thick heads. And please don’t buy the Toyota propaganda.
    Self charging needs to be measured as 100% gas/petrol driven cars, because that’s what it is.

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      9 months ago

      The article doesn’t claim the Yaris is an EV. It claims that 80% op total car sales were EV’s. The Yaris probably is in the 20%. The Toyota BZ4X is in the 80%.

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        9 months ago

        Ah yes I see that now, kind of poor journalism to not mark which are actually electric, making it just a list of 20 cars that says nothing except they are in the top 20. Not very useful. It only says Toyota Yaris, which exist as both self charging and normal ICE, and Kona exist both as EV and ICE, so are they lumped together?

        Stupid schematic to include, when it doesn’t say anything relevant to the article.

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            9 months ago

            Thanks, I know I made a mistake, but all the cars I knew on that list were Electric. Because currently we only look at electric for our next car.
            So I think it’s a mistake that’s easy to make.

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      Nothing here suggests Yaris is electric. It is a list of all the most popular models in Norway (including ICE) with their market shares, and the electric ones (so not Yaris) are over 82%. Yaris would be in the gas-hybrid category of 6%, or in the plug-in hybrid category with another 8%.

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      Hybrid is not electric, it’s not ICE either, that’s why it’s called Hybrid!

      Hybrid means “both this and that”, not “neither this nor that”. I’m pretty sure kids learn that in elementary school, middle school at the very latest 🤦

      You’re also wrong about the rest but I don’t care enough about your nonsense to go into further detail.

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        9 months ago

        My understanding is their tax policy makes it so only the very wealthy can afford a car.

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          9 months ago

          Your understanding is that in one of the countries with the least difference between rich and poor only the rich can afford cars?

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            9 months ago

            Saying that the difference is small is wrong in today’s Norway. The difference is growing and are just getting worse.

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          9 months ago

          Singapore has a ton of policies that make car ownership extremely expensive, including a 10-year certificate of ownership that costs over $100,000 USD. Maybe that’s what you were thinking of?

          Fuel in Norway is very expensive, and I’m sure other ownership costs are similar. But that’s true of much of Europe and they have very good public transit so a car isn’t as much of a necessity as it is in the US.

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          That is the most stupid thing I’ve ever read. It’s very expensive to own a car here but it’s not just for the rich.