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It is pretty ingenious (and evil) the way they made the Chromium logo look like the shitty off-brand diet version of Chrome.
Completely ignoring Chrome’s success is off the back of it being advertised on the world’s most popular website since it’s release, then yeah.
And it being installed with unrelated software as crapware, and Google adopting Microsoft’s “Youtube isn’t done until Firefox doesn’t run”…
and they advertised it on tv pretty heavily, too.
I love Opera’s response to some of the idiotic speed test ads: https://youtu.be/zaT7thTxyq8
This was before Opera dropped their own engine and became just another Chrome skin unfortunately.
For those who missed the original Chrome ads, here they are: https://youtu.be/nCgQDjiotG0
I can’t figure out what Opera’s deal is now, with that weird video enhancement thing. Lucid, or whatever it’s called.
ABSOLUTELY NOBODY asked for in-browser video sharpening.
How much development time and expertise does that kind of thing take, anyway? Whatever the fuck Lucid Video actually does, it must have taken thousands of person-hours to develop, of which many hundreds were contributed by people with Masters-degree levels of education and experience, in image processing.
Why, in the name of all that is good and holy in this misbegotten, shit-crusted world would they spend all that effort on that shit, INSTEAD OF MAKING THEIR OWN BROWSER ENGINE AGAIN???
That would HAVE to be easier, right? Maybe it would be pretty hard, given the commitment you’d have to make, in order to be absolutely sure you were making a product that didn’t have huge security holes. But I’m just saying, NOBODY wanted whatever this Lucid Video thing is. At least just save all the effort of doing that, by just…not doing it.
Nobody:
Opera: Hey kids, do you want to install a GAMING browser?!
Also, nobody:
Also, Opera: Every couple of times that the browser auto-updates itself, it plays a splash screen with a weirdly ominous and loud noise. You’re welcome. We knew you’d love that.
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Its such a horrendously cheesy marketing gimmick, and people still somehow fall for it. Like sure, it has some actual features like ram limiter or whatever, but when is that every necessary? I keep around a hundred tabs open across two different browsers (yeah, I’m a weirdo like that) on my 12 year old thinkpad and it works fine, surely a GAMING computer running any other browser would be able to keep up without having to set artificial resource limits?
Also, did you know that Opera has an official vtuber? Because apparently that’s also what all the cool kids are into these days
opera isn’t opera anymore, it’s chinese-owned now (since 2016). if you want a browser by one of the original founders of the ‘old’ opera, look at vivaldi… although it, too, is chromium-based.
I really miss the old Opera. Dropped it immediately when they went with Chrome.
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Why not both meme
Wait, what?
They had some iconic ads back in the day. Some examples:
Speed - https://youtu.be/FaNpWJY9SEs
Stability - https://youtu.be/GZRZcKEtHzo
Security - https://youtu.be/ekeRDKxQe1g
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Huh, watching this in current year, the “crashed tabs won’t crash your browser” one feels like an oddly technical detail to include in a commercial. I guess I’m just so used to it now that it’s hard for me to imagine that web browsers weren’t always as reliable as they are now.
Also, look, I appreciate your comment, but could you please at least remove the ?si= tracking nonsense from your youtube links?
For everyone else, here are nvidious links:
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=FaNpWJY9SEs
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GZRZcKEtHzo
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ekeRDKxQe1gPeople forget but when chrome first came out it was extremely ahead of the competition.
I’d also like to add, to whomever it may concern, that you can find a userscript to automatically convert youtube links into invidious links, among other things, here.
There’s a couple others made by the same guy you may be interested in, like a basic link tracker remover
Thanks for sharing!
Their chrome and play store ads will forever be seared in my brain.
I wonder if chromium having the blue colors is what set the precedent for almost every other privacy-conscious browser to have a blue logo (Waterfox, GNU Icecat, palemoon, librewolf…)
EDIT on second though probably not, blue just seems like a good color for internet-related applications. Safari, edge, and internet explorer are also blue!
For years I’ve seen blue as a social media color and stayed away. A beautiful peaceful color ruined by Facebook and its ilk
And I hate that it’s everywhere. Be more colourful, people!
Yeah, install Chrome!
The color palette of fortune 100 companies seem to be, in order of frequency: Blue, Red, and White (not counting negative space).
I think that there was some study that found that these colors are the most impactful or some shit.
I remember hearing that in pokemon go, you could choose to join one of three teams or whatever (blue, yellow, and red). And the blue one was by far the most popular one, despite there being no difference besides color.
As others already said, Chromium definitely isn’t the first or only one to use a blue logo. There is a theory that colours influence the way we perceive a brand, for example this article explains that idea.
Blue is supposed to convey trustworthiness and maturity. A lot of companies like that, so you tend to see a lot of blue.
You may also be experiencing the frequency illusion. If you specifically noticed the blue in Chromium’s logo, it would make sense that you suddenly started noticing the blue in other logos as well!
I feel like just more app icons in general are blue than any other color. Off the top of my head in addition to what you mentioned I have shazam, venmo, signal, steam, blink, reolink, dropbox, steam, paypal, discord, max, disney plus. And that’s not even counting one’s that are majority white but with blue as the only color. I think it’s just the most popular design choice or maybe there’s some sinister market research somewhere that shows people use/spend more on apps that have blue icons.
I believe blue is a very “Everything is okay” colour. Which might explain why it’s so common if true.
And no API keys included on the Windows version of Chromium…
Firefox logo looks better anyway.
And the browser is better than this Chromium bullshit
Used to, anyway.
Still does, though I agree I liked the old one better.
RIP little paw
With more spyware
Why neither should be used.
Firefox gang
Lynx gang!
(Edit: love it that somebody gave me a downvote for mentioning the Lynx browser)
Alright, 10 bucks for the first developer that makes a YouTube ASCII art plugin for Lynx.
Hold my beer!
Have you played with caca in vlc? I wouldn’t know how to get into lynx but it seems it’s most of the way there.
% vlc --vout caca video.oggI was kind of joking, but the serious part came from the time I worked at an office with strict browsing rules, so I had to resort to lynx to avoid suspicion. I know an ASCII art video wouldn’t look innocent anyway, but I was just simply thinking if it’s possible at all particularly in lynx.
Honestly, I just wanted to post that the caca module exists. I hope someone has fun with it.
I might still try it, it sounds fun! I love your name BTW.
Hey there based lynx user! I’ve been thinking of switching to lynx (or w3m or similar) for reading text-heavy websites like documentation and blogs and stuff, but I find it really annoying how in every terminal browser that I tried, the text stretches across the entire screen. It’s kind of annoying reading such long lines, at least for me. Do you know if lynx (or any other terminal browser) has some sort of option to set a maximum width for web pages?
It’s been over a decade since I last used Lynx, only really mentioned it because it’s cool, if not very practical in this day and age of GUIs.
So the short answers is “no”.
Sorry.
Okay, thanks for the reply tho!
Gang gang
Ungoogled-chromium gang
I’d rather use spyware than that piece of garbage. So many things are missing or broken. Ik it’s smaller and open source but that doesn’t mean it’s the best solution. I’m waiting for arc to come out on Windows.
FF is a perfectly good browser with as many features as any other.
Even has pioneered some of them like the picture-in-picture that lets you overlay videos.
Could you provide specifics on why you don’t like It? Or what’s “broken”?
There’s a lot of things but especially that of developer tools. They are horrible and I often run into many things going wrong when using it such as elements not showing at all and weird versions of errors showing in the console. It also has issues with site compatibility from a development standpoint. Many commonly used Web standards (as shown by mozillas own documentation) are just not present on Firefox. I remember there being complaints over Microsoft teams or YouTube not working on Firefox. People blamed Microsoft and Google, but it was actually mozillas fault for not adding standard web elements and JavaScript functions.
I agree with the developer tools take, they are sometimes unresponsive and difficult to read or analyse, especially snapshots.
Now, I have to disagree about the web standards, all major current browsers are W3C compliant, and developing under those guidelines is an interchangeable operation between browsers.
But of course, this a market, and browsers will one-up one another for a higher market share. Google for example has been pushing forward almost a new set of guidelines for Chrome, which has a gigantic market share; and those, while widely used, are not the norm, they should be namespaces, we as developers are bound to have to deal with these edge cases unfortunately.
I understand where the frustration is coming from, Mozilla isn’t a saint, but with the current state of browsers, you can’t possibly say that Firefox is a bad choice, overall It does everything a modern browser is supposed to do.
I’d even say it’s a better option now than It has ever been.
But still why would I want to use it? Even if it’s Google’s fault that things don’t work, things still don’t work. I’m not going to use something worse because there might be “spyware” in chrome. Which by the way, is just them collecting data for themselves, not selling data like face book or tiktok does.
What’s broken and missing exactly? Everything works fine for me except experimental features such as webgpu for example
Named tab groups.
Don’t get me wrong…I still use FF on Linux, but this is the one thing I miss…and the extension don’t seem to work as well as native groups…
Look at my above comment reply, I don’t want to paste the whole thing again
Couldn’t agree more
Actually, what is the reason that Firefox seems to be preferred over Chromium? Is it the license? The control Alphabet has over it?
One has to agree that there is a lot more money poured into chromium, the code is more modern and easier embeddable, it is more feature-complete.
Though, it’s good to have two independent browser engines and a non-profit (+for-profit subsidiary) dedicated to a free, open, user-focussed browser.
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Which still is based on Firefox, like down if other great derivatives. All of those are great, and mostly up to personal preference.
The important step is to get people out of the chromium universe in the first place. Sadly, Google puts their poison in at the well (=chromium), so a lot of formerly fantastic chromium-based secure and private browsers are now failing.
What are these other two browsers? Please elaborate!
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I don’t blame the users here, remember from 2008 to 2012 where chrome ads where plastered on every website. Google knew what it was doing spreading its Trojan horse. I wouldn’t have known about the existence of chromium if I wasn’t lurking of privacy forums, blame google this time.
Back then chrome was useful tho. Faster than any competition.
Now, while it’s still fast, it’s so. Fekkin. Hungry.
I want my browser to be hungry. I’d rather have it using the memory for sites than have the sites reload when I switch tabs. I want it to be fast on all things.
This is not exclusive to Chrome. No matter what I use, I want it to be running from RAM and not have to swap or reload anything. Even things on my phone. I absolutely hate when I’m in the middle of multitasking on my phone and I go back to some information and the app has been unloaded and needs to load from scratch again (sometimes requiring a login to view the information I had previously retrieved).
That being said, I load everything I own up with about as much RAM as I can, and I buy devices with more RAM than I think I’ll need. Generally when considering an upgrade to my current cellphone, I’m looking at the RAM of the new phone and considering if the increased amount justifies the work and cost involved with changing phones (if there’s an increase at all). Since RAM will be the most significant factor in whether or not something can keep up with me.
My main PC has 64G, my laptop has 32G, and I believe right now, my current phone has 8G. It may be time to upgrade my phone…
Not 96gb or 128gb on your pc?
I’ve been thinking about upgrading. I have room to increase the memory on my main system, and my laptop. I can easily double both…
I believe my main system will support upwards of 1.5TB of RAM in specific configurations. I likely would not exceed 256GB. Beyond that and even the best CPUs for my system probably wouldn’t be able to support enough processes to really take advantage of it. Even now I’m more concerned about CPU speed in my main rig than I am about RAM. I’ll probably pick up something with faster cores soon.
I…wow…whew…my PC has 12gb…you’re scary my man…
A-anyway, I believe browsers shouldn’t be that hungry…
Don’t be scared. I’m rarely over 32GB of use. I mainly have it for when I need to do some virtualization/lab work.
Even when I do labs though, I usually debate whether to run them local or put them on my home server with 256GB of RAM.
Edit to add: since I have the memory, I’d rather that chrome uses it for useful stuff. No point in having the memory if it’s just going to sit vacant most of the time. I already bought the RAM, so I might as well use it.
It wasn’t, people were using out dated explorer versions and up to date Chrome was faster
Luckily Microsoft learned from Google that you can’t leave updates up to the user
Love the legend at the bottom!
the hecking pepper brush from GIMP at the end got me laughing!
It’s like a little trophy that we get the privilege of using as a reward for mastering GIMP’s admittedly beginner-hostile interface
Nice job on the half chrome logo on the second panel
Thank you! You noticed! I like to put that extra little bit of effort into my memes to make them stand out
Green Is My Pepper 👌
when i was in high school chrome had lots of school restrictions but chromium didnt. life saver for me, guy who did nothing in high school
Schools IT departments all over the world are doing society a massive favor by indirectly teaching children how to bypass censorship. 80% of what I know about IP and NAT came from finding different ways to bypass my school’s firewall haha
one of my ways of bypassing the schools block on reddit was so stupidly easy
ssl error comes up trying to go to reddit. delete ssl from the link bar (cant remember its name) and boom reddit works
Or use Firefox, a browser not made by the same guys who want to create a monopoly on web browsers.
Don’t they receive millions from Google specifically?
Yeah, but they do a lot of good stuff for the open internet, and they respect user freedom and privacy. Unlike Google, they allow you to use proper adblockers and don’t want to screw you over with this MV3 bullshit.
I agree with the sentiment, but acktshually… https://blog.chromium.org/2021/01/limiting-private-api-availability-in.html
That’s the not-spyware part of it.
Well they marketed it heavily and this is the result.
Also no one is a loser for using a piece of software.
Unless it’s Chrome or Windows. According to some folks, you might as well end it all now.
I love how the Chrome logo is literally a camera shutter looking at you, with Chromium the same but in camo. Really gets the message across.
Good luck finding a Chromium build for non Linux based systems. Not that I would be affected by that.
Are you currently using ungoogled chromium? How is it? Last time I took a look at it, it seemed sort of abandoned. Is it being maintained again?
The only thing stopping ungoogled chromium from really kicking off is an open source webstore alternative. Think Eclipse’s Open-VSX for community vscode builds.
last commit was 5 days ago, so I’d say it’s still up and running. I use it as an alternative for sites that don’t work great with firefox
Good to know, thanks! I currently use the flatpak version of my preferred browser for extra security (the sandbox could in theory limit the damage done by zerodays, also in theory limits fingerprinting because things like custom fonts are not available inside the sandbox), but unfortunately that breaks previewing/debugging local html files that reference other local files (e.g. images), so I was looking for a nice and simple browser to install natively just for that purpose.
Why is Elmo standing in for Cookie Monster?
Huh? Wasn’t this always how this template looked like? I found it by ducking (is that what we call it?) “elmo cocaine meme template”, meanwhile “coockie monster cocaine meme template” returns nothing relevant…
EDIT: Are you making a joke about cookies that I am too dumb to understand?
I’ve never seen the meme before, my bad. I thought it was supposed to be cookie monster munching, not Elmo snorting!
Oh haha no worries. I myself have never watched a ful episode of whatever show these characters are from (Sesame street? was that what it was called?) so I thought you were referencing some lore I didn’t know haha
I think it’s because the chrome and chromium icons are circles, like cookies. You also put a “bite mark” in the chrome icon, as if bit off like a cookie.
I tried to download Chromium but it’s a mess. No way a regular user will be able to download and install it. The will to do it will fade pretty quickly
I go to the software center, search chromuim, click install. Its that easy for Linux mint users
It’s that easy on Windows as well, depending on the package manager you prefer the commands are
Winget (native)
winget install -e --id Hibbiki.Chromium
Chocolatey (third party)
choco install chromium-stable
Winget is awesome! It’s nice to see Microsoft finally focusing on adding basic quality-of-life features to their OS. First there was Windows Terminal, then proper bash support with WSL, and now package management with Winget! To be fair, it’s not 100% there yet. Tried installing ffmpeg with winget recently, and it took like three times longer than apt-get would have. But hey, better than downloading EXE’s from some random website. Really excited for what they’ll add next. Who knows, maybe Windows will finally be a viable desktop OS some day!
I prefer my pacman being able to cd to a directory and install there rather than winget’s “-location direct path” but yeah Linux is faster and better for tech illiterate people like myself
Linux is faster and better for tech illiterate people like myself
For real tho, I could never come up with a good reason why I choose Linux over windows. But recently I tried Windows 11, and that finally made me understand. What are sticky keys? Why are you telling me the exchange rate of EUR to USD right now? Why do I need to put
.\in front of my username when signing in? Why can’t you just tell me that you want TPM and UEFI boot enabled instead of cryptically saying that my hardware is incompatible even though it is? There’s just too much crap going on for a dumb fuck like me to understand. I would like one boring linux desktop experience that hasn’t changed since 2003 please.
Firefox is better anyways
Firefox doesn’t fucking work with my daughter’s online school. This is a national school that multiple states are adopting as a state online school (meaning it is a public school and we don’t have to pay tuition) and we have to use Chrome because I can’t get it to work in Firefox and I hate Edge. Even worse, a bunch of materials from the school either don’t mention which browser to use or specifically say you can use either Firefox or Chrome. I spent like half an hour trying to figure out why it wasn’t working. I did updates, resets, anything I could think of, until my wife texted me and said maybe it has to be in Chrome. And yep, that worked.
Of course, the school is run by Pearson, and they’re evil, so they probably have a deal with Google anyway.
Damn, that sucks. I have always been keeping my school/university stuff in a separate browser, so maybe your daughter can use something like Ungoogled Chromium for school and Firefox for everything else.
I’ll look into it eventually, but we had to do this at the last minute because we had to get school started and she gets annoyed when I try to do anything on the notebook while she’s around.
Ugh, Pearson’s the worst. Have you tried a user agent switcher? I seem to recall that working when I last had to deal with their crap.
I don’t know anything about that. Can you point me to a guide?
You can get browser extensions that change your user agent string, which websites use to fingerprint you. So you’re just spoofing a different browser/OS. I use this one.
Thanks so much! I will check it out.
I’m happy with Safari but yeah Firefox is my other choice
Flatpak (and flathub.org) has been a lifesaver for this, I use Ungoogled Chromium. Of course only for the few broken shitty websites that I’m forced to use
