Winter’s whole rhetorical strategy in this community is minimization. No matter what Republicans or conservatives do, it’s never as bad as it’s made out to be, even if someone makes plans to kill 37 LEOs. It’s just venting after all…
Without more information, it’s hard to know if they were a threat or over zealous prosecution.
Finally something that isn’t just deflection or an attempt to put words in someone’s mouth.
Let’s see, he:
is a criminal (assaulting officers and destruction of government property during Jan 6th)
plotted to kill 37 FBI agents (including some that were investigating his criminal actions from Jan 6
is now charged with conspiracy, retaliating against a federal official, interstate communication of a threat and solicitation to commit a crime of violence
he “obtained a list of law enforcement personnel who participated in that criminal investigation and the two discussed plans to kill individuals on the list in conversations with a cooperating witness. Those plans included an attack on the FBI’s Knoxville Field Office.” “A witness, who was described as a coworker and a very good friend to Carter, met with Kelley and Carter in early December when Kelley discussed assassination missions that would target federal agents.” “On Dec. 13, Carter gave the witness an envelope from Kelley that contained 37 names and some phone numbers of the law enforcement personnel who participated in his criminal investigation, as well as a thumb drive of video footage from a warrant search of Kelley’s home in May.”
is quoted as having said “With us being such a small group we will mainly conduct recon missions and assassination missions.”
Do you really think it’s okay to not answer questions in a context like this? Doesn’t it come across to yourself like “gee, I can’t answer these questions and keep my position here, maybe my position’s wrong”, like at all?
‘Hey let’s go kill some federal agents’ isn’t venting.
Winter’s whole rhetorical strategy in this community is minimization. No matter what Republicans or conservatives do, it’s never as bad as it’s made out to be, even if someone makes plans to kill 37 LEOs. It’s just venting after all…
I’m not minimizing anything. Without more information, it’s hard to know if they were a threat or over zealous prosecution.
Finally something that isn’t just deflection or an attempt to put words in someone’s mouth.
Let’s see, he:
is a criminal (assaulting officers and destruction of government property during Jan 6th)
plotted to kill 37 FBI agents (including some that were investigating his criminal actions from Jan 6
is now charged with conspiracy, retaliating against a federal official, interstate communication of a threat and solicitation to commit a crime of violence
he “obtained a list of law enforcement personnel who participated in that criminal investigation and the two discussed plans to kill individuals on the list in conversations with a cooperating witness. Those plans included an attack on the FBI’s Knoxville Field Office.” “A witness, who was described as a coworker and a very good friend to Carter, met with Kelley and Carter in early December when Kelley discussed assassination missions that would target federal agents.” “On Dec. 13, Carter gave the witness an envelope from Kelley that contained 37 names and some phone numbers of the law enforcement personnel who participated in his criminal investigation, as well as a thumb drive of video footage from a warrant search of Kelley’s home in May.”
is quoted as having said “With us being such a small group we will mainly conduct recon missions and assassination missions.”
Sources:
https://www.wate.com/news/tennessee/maryville-man-january-6-fbi-knoxville-office-attack-plan-trial-delayed/
https://www.wate.com/news/crime/two-planned-attack-fbi-knoxville-office-january-6-investigators/
https://www.wate.com/news/top-stories/east-tennesseei-40-i-75-icy-conditions-overturned-tractor-trailer/?nxsparam=1&nxstory_autoturn=1
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/16/us/politics/jan-6-defendant-assassination-plot.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/capitol-riot-defendant-planned-kill-fbi-agents-investigated-unsealed-f-rcna62214
Seems reasonable to me to consider him to be a threat.
How did the jury decide?
Right back to deflection again. Damn, I was hopeful for once.
You can’t answer a question can you ? I already covered this and you reply back with more garbage.
I’ll answer your questions when they start being honest.
It’s cause you don’t know the answer. I do. I question overzealous prosecution.
Did he kill any federal agents?
It isn’t venting. Quit trying to deflect.
You have no idea what he was doing. You don’t even understand what a conspiracy charge is. Did he kill a federal agent or not?
Are you going to address my statement about venting, or are you just going to continue to deflect?
Can you stop trying to deflect and answer the question. I addressed your statement clearly.
How childish.
Do you really think it’s okay to not answer questions in a context like this? Doesn’t it come across to yourself like “gee, I can’t answer these questions and keep my position here, maybe my position’s wrong”, like at all?
Take it up with winter. You get what you take. Winter isn’t addressing my points, so I’m not going to address theirs.
I will not put in effort that is not being recieved.