California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) said he would go “to the ends of the earth” for President Biden in a recent MSNBC interview. When host Alex Wagner noted Newsom was not running for president despit…
Military action is not the solution to terrorism. On the contrary, it creates MORE terrorism by making the people who lost loved ones easier to radicalize.
Biden circumvented normal procedures to expedite arms to Israel twice in December alone. That’s actively supporting the genocide. His mealy mouthed “hey guys, maybe tone it down a bit until I get re-elected?” isn’t anywhere near active opposition.
Military action worked really well against Al-Qaeda.
It really didn’t.
It can perpetuate terrorism, but does not have to
It always does.
a massive terrorist attack
You keep playing up the size of one day while ignoring the extremely unproportionate "response " from the Israeli government.
a 70-year-old ally.
And pretending that the alliance of hegemonic convenience means that they’re allowed to commit atrocities freely
Biden is not actively supporting genocide.
Bending if not breaking rules and norms to make sure that the US is supplying a shitload of the weapons and funding that make it possible is active support by any sane definition, so yes he is.
Netanyahu said they’re going to extend the war, Biden says they cannot.
And Biden knows that Netanyahu won’t listen to talk without real consequences. Of which Biden will make sure there will be none.
an uncomfortable situation where innocents are getting killed
War crime enabling understatement of the century.
doesn’t mean you have to start making things up.
I’m not. I just wish I could say the same about you.
I’m not ignoring the disproportionate response by Israel, you are as yet unable to comprehend that it’s the exact same way they’ve responded to every attack from Palestine for 70 years.
You’re just making things up about Biden that haven’t come true yet.
So yeah you can make things up, but two weeks ago people were saying Biden wouldn’t even tell Israel to stop, and then he encouraged them to scale back operations, and then they said he never stopped delivering weapons, and now he’s slowing down deliveries, and you are all arguing that they’re going to encourage the war to go on forever, and he told netanyahu that the war cannot continue indefinitely.
You can make things up, but they are crashing into the walls of reality.
It’s been interesting to watch the rhetoric unfold around this whole situation. People seem to expect Biden to react along with their emotions, but you’re right that the US has to support its Allies.
Not coming to Israel’s aid after the Hamas attack would have undermined US credibility, which is already shakey after we elected trump
Also, pulling out of a historical alliance would have taken us out of being able to control how the situation continues and any policy or military decisions made.
If you aren’t someone’s ally, they aren’t going to listen to you if you give advice on how to proceed in a military conflict or really any situation, and as we can all see, even if you are their most important ally, you have to constantly reiterate and reinforce your point of view to make any impact.
The US doesn’t agree with how Israel is conducting the war, but to immediately turn on a 70-year ally woukd inevitably cause every other ally to pull away, and potential future allies or any future negotiating party to distrust the states, you’re exactly right
A couple points:
Military action is not the solution to terrorism. On the contrary, it creates MORE terrorism by making the people who lost loved ones easier to radicalize.
Biden circumvented normal procedures to expedite arms to Israel twice in December alone. That’s actively supporting the genocide. His mealy mouthed “hey guys, maybe tone it down a bit until I get re-elected?” isn’t anywhere near active opposition.
Military action worked really well against Al-Qaeda.
It can perpetuate terrorism, but does not have to.
Biden, in the politically immediate aftermath of a massive terrorist attack, is continuing US support of a 70-year-old ally.
Biden is not actively supporting genocide.
Netanyahu said they’re going to extend the war, Biden says they cannot. Netanyahu says they will not negotiate, Biden insists on a two-state solution.
Just because this is an uncomfortable situation where innocents are getting killed, it doesn’t mean you have to start making things up.
It really didn’t.
It always does.
You keep playing up the size of one day while ignoring the extremely unproportionate "response " from the Israeli government.
And pretending that the alliance of hegemonic convenience means that they’re allowed to commit atrocities freely
Bending if not breaking rules and norms to make sure that the US is supplying a shitload of the weapons and funding that make it possible is active support by any sane definition, so yes he is.
And Biden knows that Netanyahu won’t listen to talk without real consequences. Of which Biden will make sure there will be none.
War crime enabling understatement of the century.
I’m not. I just wish I could say the same about you.
I’m not ignoring the disproportionate response by Israel, you are as yet unable to comprehend that it’s the exact same way they’ve responded to every attack from Palestine for 70 years.
You’re just making things up about Biden that haven’t come true yet.
So yeah you can make things up, but two weeks ago people were saying Biden wouldn’t even tell Israel to stop, and then he encouraged them to scale back operations, and then they said he never stopped delivering weapons, and now he’s slowing down deliveries, and you are all arguing that they’re going to encourage the war to go on forever, and he told netanyahu that the war cannot continue indefinitely.
You can make things up, but they are crashing into the walls of reality.
I’m sure you wish you could.
Shhhh
US bad
Ohhhh right. I totally forgot, thank you.
It’s been interesting to watch the rhetoric unfold around this whole situation. People seem to expect Biden to react along with their emotions, but you’re right that the US has to support its Allies.
Not coming to Israel’s aid after the Hamas attack would have undermined US credibility, which is already shakey after we elected trump
Also, pulling out of a historical alliance would have taken us out of being able to control how the situation continues and any policy or military decisions made.
If you aren’t someone’s ally, they aren’t going to listen to you if you give advice on how to proceed in a military conflict or really any situation, and as we can all see, even if you are their most important ally, you have to constantly reiterate and reinforce your point of view to make any impact.
The US doesn’t agree with how Israel is conducting the war, but to immediately turn on a 70-year ally woukd inevitably cause every other ally to pull away, and potential future allies or any future negotiating party to distrust the states, you’re exactly right