• Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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    They aren’t empty unless they’re not backed up with action.

    Since the biden administration has already taken action, you’ re at a loss.

    “But he didn’t use the word ceasefire!”

    He encouraged netanyahu to stop fighting, enacting a ceasefire. You can call it whatever you want, but when two actively fighting sides stop fighting, that’s called a ceasefire.

    I get that you’re parroting what I’ve saying about Israel committing genocide, so, thanks I guess.

    No, Israel, surrounded by terrorist groups and multiple countries, is not at all the main reason for terrorism and it’s absolutely ridiculous that you would assert that when it’s a bald-faced lie easily disproven:

    Israel regularly fights and fought Hamas, PIJ, isis, Hezbollah, in an effort to stabilize their democratic country and the surrounding region.

    Israel is a stabilizing military force in the region, so of course the US is going to support them. As they have been for 70 years.

    This is not a month-old conflict, stop pretending it is.

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      They aren’t empty unless they’re not backed up with action.

      Exactly. They’re not backed up by any action.

      Since the biden administration has already taken action, you’ re at a loss.

      No they haven’t. I’m not the lost one here.

      He encouraged netanyahu to stop fighting, enacting a ceasefire

      He said the words knowing full well that it wouldn’t accomplish anything except (poorly) covering his own ass

      No, Israel, surrounded by terrorist groups and multiple countries

      Terrorist groups primarily existing because of the oppressive actions of the Israeli governments.

      Israel regularly fights and fought Hamas, PIJ, isis, Hezbollah

      Zero to one of which would exist if not for Israeli government atrocities

      an effort to stabilize their democratic country and the surrounding region.

      Yeah, THAT’S going well! 🙄

      Israel is a **de**stabilizing military force in the region

      Fixed that for you.

      This is not a month-old conflict

      True, the Israeli government has been massacring and oppressing Palestinian civilians for many decades.

      stop pretending it is.

      I never did.

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        You do this thing where you respond to comments line by line, without ever saying anything of actual substance. It’s interesting.

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          You apparently do this thing where you read a lot of text without understanding any of it. Fascinating.

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        You keep talking about these actions as if they’re the only actions that have occurred in the 70 years since Israel became a country.

        You are making assumptions about this one conflict as if all of this is a new surprising reaction, and then when I contradict you, parroting the words that I said.

        Which, I appreciate, but isn’t very convincing for your line of argument.

        Let’s counter your other blatantly false statements.

        Israel is not responsible for the creation of those terrorist groups.

        Hamas was founded as a direct counter to the PIJ, isis was founded to combat US troops in Iraq.

        Israel is able to contain all of these groups militarily and is willing to do so.

        They have historically been a stabilizing force in that region because they’re willing to combat terrorist organizations.

        And then I guess you just agree with me again at the end, so cheers.

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        Ah yes, my Zionist talking points of reducing Israeli territory, establishing a two-state solution and eschewing violence in place of wiser, nonviolent diplomacy.

        How Ziony of me to condemn 70 years of excessive Israeli military retaliation, extrajudicial execution and illegal occupation and colonization, while I insult netanyahu.

        The manifesto bursts forth.