and when has a left boycott ever been effective? Never.

That said, I thought the exemption for bakeries was strange.

Greg Flynn doesn’t own Panera. He owns some franchise units. JAB holdings is the one that owns Panera.

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    When the left does a boycott, it is to fight for people’s rights (just as in this case), and it gets labeled by the right as cancel culture, as no action of the left can be without pejorative labeling by the right.

    When the right does a boycott, it is for the latest culture war thing that will never help the average american (such as panicking over a trans person being in an ad).

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      What rights were you people fighting for with the Hobby Lobby, Waifair, SoullCycle gym, Sinclair Broadcasting, CVS, Olive Garden, ADL, …?

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        Pick your strongest one. I don’t have time for all of those.

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              I don’t see any evidence that soul cycle supported a “white nationalist”. Don’t know why the race of a nationalists is important to this discussion but we are not discussing your race hangups right now. Your source claims that an owner of a company that invested in soul cycle hosted a Trump fund raiser.

              What specific rights were you people fighting for by boycotting soul cycle?

              You’re 0 for 2 on your claims the company had no connection to the fundraiser and you can’t list any rights you were fighting for.

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                invested in soul cycle hosted a Trump fund raiser.

                I don’t see any evidence that soul cycle supported a “white nationalist”.

                Yeah… think a little harder on this one.

                Don’t know why the race of a nationalists is important to this discussion but we are not discussing your race hangups right now.

                Thank you for the reminder that white nationalists are supported around here. I needed the reminder to not take this place seriously.

                the company had no connection to the fundraiser

                They did though.

                https://www.vox.com/2019/8/8/20782269/stephen-ross-soulcycle-equinox-trump-donor

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                  I don’t see any evidence in your source that soul cycle was involved in the fundraiser.

                  Thank you for the reminder that white nationalists are supported around here. I needed the reminder to not take this place seriously.

                  It this your way of saying you support black nationalists, chinese nationalists, Jewish nationalists…?

                  You somehow forgot to mention which rights you were fighting for by boycotting soul cycle.

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                I assume you’re trying to have a discussion with pizza. He has a weird fascination with white nationalist and calls a random people white nationalist. When ask for proof, he just babbles and claims you’re moving the goal post.

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                  He has a weird fascination with white nationalist and calls a random people white nationalist.

                  Given that neo nazis are publicly and openly marching in the streets, I wouldn’t call it a weird fascination. It’s a legitimate concern for anybody who cares about their rights, the rights of others, or democracy.

                  When ask for proof, he just babbles and claims you’re moving the goal post.

                  When you ask for proof you ignore the proof and move on to the next thing. You always get that treatment because that’s always what you do.

                  Garbage in, garbage out. If you wanted to have honest discussion, you need to be honest. But you’re not, so it’s what you get.

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                  I might be partially to blame on that one, I used the term moving the goal posts in a discussion with him. He learned a new phrase but not what it ment.

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      This is a cool website. Importantly, the effectiveness many of the boycotts didn’t manifest until after several years! So when we hear about a boycott and when it achieves its goal seems to often have considerable lag time.

      That’s actually really useful to know.

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        Yet when the right boycotted bud. It was noticeable in less than a month. Their market share and stock dropped like a rock. That’s how you boycott.

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          Didn’t everyone end up boycotting them for a while because they walked back the stuff that the right got mad at pretty quickly?

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            That detail is irrelevant for OP. Showing the right to be strong is more important than recognizing that bud light ended up getting boycotted by everyone in the end.

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            Everyone ended up boycotting.

            I didn’t because I don’t care about the whole trans ad. Trans people drink beer too.

            Also I don’t drink bud light. Can’t boycott something I don’t drink.

            That was a marketing lesson learned. They ended up pissing everyone off. They should have either not done the marketing ad or defended the hell out of it after they did it.