See this is what I’m talking about. Poor reading comprehension all around. I’ve addressed this here in detail https://lemmy.ml/comment/9575251
The boss you employs your dumb ass appropriates all the value that you produce, then pays you a small portion of that value in form of salary. That’s the system where you don’t get benefit of your labor.
When you are an employee, which is the vast majority of population who do not own businesses, you are being exploited by an owner such as yourself who steals your labor.
A business that actually benefits the workers is a worker owned cooperative where people doing the work get to keep the profits. Evidently this concept is really hard for you to wrap your head around.
You still didnt answer the question. I had no employees, I just worked a lot and am smart so I was able to get people what they wanted. Who was harmed and how was this bad for me?
That’s a straw man argument because I never said that being self employed harms anybody. In fact, that’s not different from a cooperative with just a single person working in the business. This is completely compatible with communism you get that right?
Once again, you’re showing your reading comprehension problems. I love how you keep telling me how smart you are, but then show that you aren’t able to parse simple sentences.
The bit you quoted was me mocking you saying that people don’t get the benefit of their labor under a mix or cooperative ownership and state enterprise. I feel compelled to reiterate the question from the quote here.
Oh, so we’re back to your straw man because nobody ever suggested anything of the sort. Once again, since you’re a little slow, communism is a a mix of private cooperative ownership (which includes being self employed) and state owned industry. What part of that specifically are you objecting to again?
The mode of business communists object to is private enterprise where the capitalist owns the business and hires wage workers.
Gotcha more insults and now actual answers, I am done here. I know you will read this whole comment because this is your lifeline to humanity. You need to stop doing this, you are so lonely that your only attachment to other people is the internet. You are going to end up old, fat, and lonely. You have some good takes on other things so you are not dumb, but you are living in imaginary computer land where there is no reality. I recommend you get out of the house and actual make some friends and dump this depressing lifestyle you have that will put you in the grave. You can respond but I promise you I will not read it so you wont do another pointless rage responce. Have a great night!
You got a clear and direct answer to your nonsense. Really should spend time working on your reading comprehension so you don’t keep making a clown of yourself in public. Also, love how you keep projecting onto me being lonely. You’re the one who keeps replying with sheer idiocy since I assume you’re attention seeking. I’m sorry your life sucks dude and you burnt yourself out by your 30s, and now all you’ve got left is online trolling. I recommend you take your own advice, because it’s just pathetic. Hope you get the help you need.
See this is what I’m talking about. Poor reading comprehension all around. I’ve addressed this here in detail https://lemmy.ml/comment/9575251
When you are an employee, which is the vast majority of population who do not own businesses, you are being exploited by an owner such as yourself who steals your labor.
A business that actually benefits the workers is a worker owned cooperative where people doing the work get to keep the profits. Evidently this concept is really hard for you to wrap your head around.
You still didnt answer the question. I had no employees, I just worked a lot and am smart so I was able to get people what they wanted. Who was harmed and how was this bad for me?
That’s a straw man argument because I never said that being self employed harms anybody. In fact, that’s not different from a cooperative with just a single person working in the business. This is completely compatible with communism you get that right?
Once again, you’re showing your reading comprehension problems. I love how you keep telling me how smart you are, but then show that you aren’t able to parse simple sentences.
The bit you quoted was me mocking you saying that people don’t get the benefit of their labor under a mix or cooperative ownership and state enterprise. I feel compelled to reiterate the question from the quote here.
Okay then we are back to why would someone like me who is a hard worker be willing to work hard if I dont get the benefit of my labor?
Oh, so we’re back to your straw man because nobody ever suggested anything of the sort. Once again, since you’re a little slow, communism is a a mix of private cooperative ownership (which includes being self employed) and state owned industry. What part of that specifically are you objecting to again?
The mode of business communists object to is private enterprise where the capitalist owns the business and hires wage workers.
Gotcha more insults and now actual answers, I am done here. I know you will read this whole comment because this is your lifeline to humanity. You need to stop doing this, you are so lonely that your only attachment to other people is the internet. You are going to end up old, fat, and lonely. You have some good takes on other things so you are not dumb, but you are living in imaginary computer land where there is no reality. I recommend you get out of the house and actual make some friends and dump this depressing lifestyle you have that will put you in the grave. You can respond but I promise you I will not read it so you wont do another pointless rage responce. Have a great night!
You got a clear and direct answer to your nonsense. Really should spend time working on your reading comprehension so you don’t keep making a clown of yourself in public. Also, love how you keep projecting onto me being lonely. You’re the one who keeps replying with sheer idiocy since I assume you’re attention seeking. I’m sorry your life sucks dude and you burnt yourself out by your 30s, and now all you’ve got left is online trolling. I recommend you take your own advice, because it’s just pathetic. Hope you get the help you need.