in 2018, Facebook told Vox that it doesn’t use private messages for ad targeting. But a few months later, The New York Times, citing “hundreds of pages of Facebook documents,” reported that Facebook “gave Netflix and Spotify the ability to read Facebook users’ private messages.”

Surprising? No. Appalling? Yes.

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    If you want private messaging - use Signal.
    If you use any kind of messaging on commercial platforms, expect immediate loss of privacy. They call them “direct” messages for a reason.

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        here’s your daily reminder not to conflate privacy with anonymity.

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            That’s not the point. It was statet that each message is associated with the number. But it isn’t. The only way to achieve this in Signal is getting into your phone.

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            Phone numbers are still required

            But are they still attached to messages?

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        Something something Privacy vs. Anonymity. But I invite you to try. Good luck getting into my phone!

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          Man sitting at library table: tap tap tap tap tap

          Couple behind him: starts arguing violently, creating massive distraction

          Man at table: awww mannn

          Let me know how that Killswitch on your phone works, hope you configured the power button shutdown press time from the default 10 seconds to 2 seconds, because SWAT can throw a flash bang through your window and have their boot on your neck before you’re able to navigate the shutdown screen.

          Note: I am in no way siding with any government agency, only stressing that they know about encryption, and their goal is to get you on the ground before you have a chance to shut your phone off. Even if you do manage to turn it off in time, hopefully your phone has the latest and greatest in anti-coldboot technology. I don’t know that GrapheneOS or any security mods wipe RAM.

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            Oh boy. Some of you people watch too many movies.

            Let’s get some basic stuff established:

            • This thread is about commercial platforms selling your direct message data. That’s the threat model.
            • I don’t live in a country where the police SWAT teams throw flashbangs without court orders
            • If the authorities want to get to me (which, again, is not the threat model of this thread). They can. Easily. They know where I live. They just have to knock on the door. It’s not even locked.
            • I did, to my best knowledge, not reply to you in anywhere this thread. I’m not sure why you are replying to me.

            But sure. I’ll give you this: If your threat model is dodging SWAT team flashbangs, I doubt using Signal is much use to you at that point. That just wasn’t what this thread was talking about.