Here is a very well cited list of the scientific evidence, covering about 80ish published studies.
There’s many paths to metabolic health, but to label a group as a cult, while they are publishing evidence and trying to work within the bounds of empirical and repeatable science. Is disingenuous.
But the core demonstrable science experiment you can do at home. Take someone with type 2 diabetes (or prediabetes) and get a glucose meter. Try different diets for 5 days each and see which gives them better glucose levels.
The scientists arent the cult mate, the online culture around keto/carnivore is. i know I have been a part of it, I also don’t need a post of articles I read a shitton when I first got into it.
To sustain a unending cycle of glucose addiction and raise insulin levels to ultimately support the processed food industry and big pharma to sell subscription medication to address our metabolic syndrome…
This is a far cry from “there are some studies that shows ketogenic/ ultra low carb diets to be an effective way of controlling some illnessess such as diabetes”
You have labeled me as a member of the “cult” for that statement.
The meme in question is what is the function of carbohydrates.
Carbohydrates increase glucose levels in the blood stream. Increased glucose levels induce a insulin reaction to lower the blood glucose to the desired range (70-100 mg/dL). Snacking/Eating throughout the day means there is a constantly elevated blood glucose environment, and the body is constantly producing insulin throughout the day as a response.
constantly elevated insulin levels are the basis of metabolic syndrome where the body has trouble self regulating. Over years this dysregulation results in medical conditions that are treated symptomatically but not the root cause.
i.e. A patient with high blood pressure is told to take blood pressure medicine, a patient with diabetes told to take insulin/metformin/ozimpeic… all without the core problem really being addressed, a diet that causes elevated insulin levels.
So yes, my response to the meme was condensed, but every step is supported by the medical literature I have read. Why does that make me a cult member?
Your right, i hereby admit that carbohydrates are an essential macronutrient and without which human life cannot be sustained.
it is not, doesn’t make keto/carnivore less of a cult.
Ok. What about the empirical science and the demonstrated impact on insulin levels?
If the cult believes something that’s demonstrably true, why is it still a cult?
What about them? srsly, tell me what about them.
what is demonstrably true?
you know what, why not have a guy with a phd explain it to you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_6OVWiHulg&pp=ygUecmVuYWlzc2FuY2UgcGVyaW9kaXphdGlvbiBrZXRv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkKbFJFOLjI&pp=ygUecmVuYWlzc2FuY2UgcGVyaW9kaXphdGlvbiBrZXRv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfk0CKoYaps&pp=ygUecmVuYWlzc2FuY2UgcGVyaW9kaXphdGlvbiBrZXRv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot8Q8YceRNo&t=62s&pp=ygUecmVuYWlzc2FuY2UgcGVyaW9kaXphdGlvbiBrZXRv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTSJuzE0XsA&pp=ygUecmVuYWlzc2FuY2UgcGVyaW9kaXphdGlvbiBrZXRv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf4DP4Q-HpY&pp=ygUecmVuYWlzc2FuY2UgcGVyaW9kaXphdGlvbiBrZXRv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jedDe2wxHt4&pp=ygUecmVuYWlzc2FuY2UgcGVyaW9kaXphdGlvbiBrZXRv
Appeals to authority are weak arguments.
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/science
Here is a very well cited list of the scientific evidence, covering about 80ish published studies.
There’s many paths to metabolic health, but to label a group as a cult, while they are publishing evidence and trying to work within the bounds of empirical and repeatable science. Is disingenuous.
But the core demonstrable science experiment you can do at home. Take someone with type 2 diabetes (or prediabetes) and get a glucose meter. Try different diets for 5 days each and see which gives them better glucose levels.
The scientists arent the cult mate, the online culture around keto/carnivore is. i know I have been a part of it, I also don’t need a post of articles I read a shitton when I first got into it.
Ok, so to revisit your argument here. I’m a cultist because I read the science?
Thats not how this started and you know it
This is a far cry from “there are some studies that shows ketogenic/ ultra low carb diets to be an effective way of controlling some illnessess such as diabetes”
You have labeled me as a member of the “cult” for that statement.
The meme in question is what is the function of carbohydrates.
Carbohydrates increase glucose levels in the blood stream. Increased glucose levels induce a insulin reaction to lower the blood glucose to the desired range (70-100 mg/dL). Snacking/Eating throughout the day means there is a constantly elevated blood glucose environment, and the body is constantly producing insulin throughout the day as a response.
constantly elevated insulin levels are the basis of metabolic syndrome where the body has trouble self regulating. Over years this dysregulation results in medical conditions that are treated symptomatically but not the root cause.
i.e. A patient with high blood pressure is told to take blood pressure medicine, a patient with diabetes told to take insulin/metformin/ozimpeic… all without the core problem really being addressed, a diet that causes elevated insulin levels.
So yes, my response to the meme was condensed, but every step is supported by the medical literature I have read. Why does that make me a cult member?