Please elaborate. I thought the concern about teflon was for the plants making it and the old stuff they used in making it that hasn’t been used in a while.
I was being semi-facetious. The potential for harm exists but the conditions are pretty extreme. It is true however that teflon manufacturing is very toxic to the environment and the workers.The campaign to quiet the risks is pretty extreme however, so I do not personally trust claims of improved methodology in manufacturing. If you look at the recent ban in Australia (I am 95% sure this is where this is taking place) they recently banned the use of “forever chemicals” such as PFAS, FOOF, etc EXCEPT for in the use of cookware because the lobbying got very intense. Additionally, if you look in to the debacle with microplastics and such, it doesnt inspire much confidence in regulation and risk analysis. Anyhow, the choice to switch cookware is a small one and the risks to your person and the globe is potentially very large, so I personally try to avoid them.
p.s. ask any chemist if they want fluorine around their food and you will probably get some negative responses as wel
You might be thinking of France. They had the ban and exception for cookware.
Anyhow, the choice to switch cookware is a small one and the risks to your person and the globe is potentially very large, so I personally try to avoid them.
I mean, the personal risk very large in the sense that the current studies don’t show it but hey you never know. I just find that a bit eh. The environmental effects seem to be more real, but that’s more of an industry wide issue than something really affected by personal cookware decisions. It’s one of those things that if they banned them it’d suck but I guess it’d be alright, but I can’t be arsed to switch myself.
How dare you have a specific, detailed, and nuanced takeaway from data that suggests specific, detailed, and nuanced risks associated with a given manufacturing process!
Don’t you know that the only possible valid conclusions are “XYZ GOOD!” or “XYZ BAD!”?!
To add to the other responses, if you were to leave a teflon pan on the stove without anything in it (ie forgot to turn a stove off) as it gets hotter the teflon starts to break down & starts boiling those chemicals back into the air.
I mean that’s obviously something you shouldn’t do ever anyway. But yeah, it can cause “teflon fever” if you get it really hot (~450°C) and breathe in the fumes. Luckily, even if you fuck up like that, the “flu” usually goes away within few days. If you go turbo idiot and heat up it up ridiculously hot and stand there breathing it in for an extended amount of time then you can fuck yourself up. Though in that situation at least you don’t have to worry about their brain because it’s probably already messed up, doing something so idiotic.
Normal use, it seems modern teflon is fine. Usually the concern seems to be more about the environmental impact or factory conditions than impact to those using them as cookware.
what’s a little cancer when compared to saving some time?
Please elaborate. I thought the concern about teflon was for the plants making it and the old stuff they used in making it that hasn’t been used in a while.
I was being semi-facetious. The potential for harm exists but the conditions are pretty extreme. It is true however that teflon manufacturing is very toxic to the environment and the workers.The campaign to quiet the risks is pretty extreme however, so I do not personally trust claims of improved methodology in manufacturing. If you look at the recent ban in Australia (I am 95% sure this is where this is taking place) they recently banned the use of “forever chemicals” such as PFAS, FOOF, etc EXCEPT for in the use of cookware because the lobbying got very intense. Additionally, if you look in to the debacle with microplastics and such, it doesnt inspire much confidence in regulation and risk analysis. Anyhow, the choice to switch cookware is a small one and the risks to your person and the globe is potentially very large, so I personally try to avoid them.
p.s. ask any chemist if they want fluorine around their food and you will probably get some negative responses as wel
You might be thinking of France. They had the ban and exception for cookware.
I mean, the personal risk very large in the sense that the current studies don’t show it but hey you never know. I just find that a bit eh. The environmental effects seem to be more real, but that’s more of an industry wide issue than something really affected by personal cookware decisions. It’s one of those things that if they banned them it’d suck but I guess it’d be alright, but I can’t be arsed to switch myself.
How dare you have a specific, detailed, and nuanced takeaway from data that suggests specific, detailed, and nuanced risks associated with a given manufacturing process!
Don’t you know that the only possible valid conclusions are “XYZ GOOD!” or “XYZ BAD!”?!
To add to the other responses, if you were to leave a teflon pan on the stove without anything in it (ie forgot to turn a stove off) as it gets hotter the teflon starts to break down & starts boiling those chemicals back into the air.
I mean that’s obviously something you shouldn’t do ever anyway. But yeah, it can cause “teflon fever” if you get it really hot (~450°C) and breathe in the fumes. Luckily, even if you fuck up like that, the “flu” usually goes away within few days. If you go turbo idiot and heat up it up ridiculously hot and stand there breathing it in for an extended amount of time then you can fuck yourself up. Though in that situation at least you don’t have to worry about their brain because it’s probably already messed up, doing something so idiotic.
Normal use, it seems modern teflon is fine. Usually the concern seems to be more about the environmental impact or factory conditions than impact to those using them as cookware.