Texas leads the charge

  • FfaerieOxide@kbin.social
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    7 months ago

    But they aren’t illegal_s_ as that renders the phrase a reference to the people themselves and not their actions.

    To refer to people as illegal is dehumanizing.

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      7 months ago

      Just because you look down on a group of people doesn’t make the term to describe them dehumanizing.

      Just because you can’t differenciate between a term for immigration status and the people with that status doesn’t change what the term means.

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        7 months ago

        Just because you look down on a group of people doesn’t make the term to describe them dehumanizing.

        Doesn’t make it not dehumanizing—since it is—and it certainly doesn’t help your arguments it isn’t.

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          7 months ago

          I can’t change how you feel about a group nor can I change the definition of a word. It’s a shame you only see a person’s immigration status there’s more to an illegal than how they entered the country.

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            7 months ago

            there’s more to an illegal than how they entered the country.

            You’re going to have to explain what the word means to me then, because the phrase by itself doesn’t even seem to refer to immigration status at all and I don’t know what you mean by it.

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                7 months ago

                I gave you the definition of illegal here.

                One that doesn’t fit with your later claim that it isn’t derogatory so both assertions cannot be true.

                The word you used doesn’t even mention people so what is it to which you are referring when you use it?

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                  7 months ago

                  One that doesn’t fit with your later claim that it isn’t derogatory so both assertions cannot be true.

                  There is nothing in the definition that says illegal is a derogatory term. Remember when you forgot about the word sometimes.

                  The word you used doesn’t even mention people so what is it to which you are referring when you use it?

                  The first 3 words in the definition of illegal are “a person who”. When I say illegal I’m referring to a person who has entered or resides in the US illegally.

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                    7 months ago

                    There is nothing in the definition that says illegal is a derogatory term.

                    There very much is, even if we limit our definitions to the one which you gave me. I pointed as much out to you 23 hours ago.

                    When I say illegal I’m referring to a person who has entered or resides in the US illegally.

                    That isn’t what that word means except as a slur which your very precious dictionary even cops to.

                    You still have not answered my inquest regarding how using an adjective as a noun to refer to a person could be anything other than dehumanizing as you still claim that it can potentially be.

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        7 months ago

        I don’t look down on the group. I look down on their actions. I don’t like criminal behavior.