• jg1i@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    First I thought this was dumb, but actually… It doesn’t seem like taxes really get distributed to everyone. I live in a poor neighborhood and our streets are all jacked up, but somehow the rich neighborhoods always have nice streets. Am I paying taxes so the rich people get nicer streets? How do I get the city to fix our roads too?

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      2 months ago

      our streets are all jacked up

      Not that it’ll really help your situation, but you should look into whether or not your state’s Department of Transportation (DOT) has some sort of reporting tool online.

      Mine does, and I’ve used it to report several issues, including several potholes on my neighborhood road. The potholes were filled within a week after I reported it.

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        But the takeaway is not to get rid of taxes. The solution is to properly distribute tax funds across all areas, rather than funnel money to the top.

        We don’t have enough systems in place to prevent the rich from taking more than their fair share.

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          We don’t have enough systems in place to prevent the rich from taking more than their fair share.

          If we did, there would be no billionaires.

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      2 months ago

      But I don’t think this startup would help. The poor neighborhoods would still have less to invest. Privatizing taxes would just make the poorer neighborhoods worse and the richer neighborhoods nicer.

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        2 months ago

        It depends. Yes, poor neighborhoods pay less taxes, and rich pay more taxes. But the imbalance in expenses may be even bigger, because of the way priorities work.

        It’s the same as minority representation in democracies (and the reason Soviet system, not the real one, but the theoretical one, is bad), when representatives are chosen by voting, the minority has fewer chances of being represented than if sortition (randomization) is used.

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          2 months ago

          Ah yes, the tyranny of democracy. It’s all good until the majority takes away your voice by sheer numbers.

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            2 months ago

            It’s rather that 80% of votes press their point in much more than 80% of cases. Which even feels unjust.

            Money is like votes in this case.

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      Am I paying taxes so the rich people get nicer streets?

      Yes, unironically.

      How do I get the city to fix our roads too?

      By being rich, or having rich friends, or managing to gather a lot of people (50+) at the front of your politicians’ offices (or their homes for extra effect) and make the demand

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        2 months ago

        I’d argue the poor pay a vastly higher percentage of their income on taxes, but I like to include all taxes in that figure, not just income tax.

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        2 months ago

        Yeah, but where do the rich people get more money from than the poor? And I don’t mean middle-class doctor/lawyer “rich”, I mean CEO-of-15-companies rich.