If TikTok disappears, I will miss the algorithm.TikTok gives me the right amounts of all of the things I’m interested in. I don’t have the same experience elsewhere. Do you?

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    Nope. I don’t like the format.

    A 30 seconds video is like repeating the same mistakes that turned Twitter (yes, even before Elon Musk) to what it is today: a place that there’s no shade of gray, no nuance and everything is outrageous. A Short has no time to elaborate on anything and can simplify the subject so much that it becomes just misinformation.

    Also I don’t believe it’s worth for creators in the long run. I’m not a creator myself but I believe that the time-effort to create a video is not linear with its duration. They can make a short so elaborated and viral that it would be more worth to create a full video in regards of sponsorship, ad revenue and subscription retention.

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    I don’t use TikTok or Instagram and I block shorts on YouTube. The average lenght of the videos I watch is somewhere between 10 to 20 minutes.

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        You need an addon for that. YouTube lets you block shorts for 30 days at a time.

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          That’s one of the weirdest features i have ever seen. I know that they just want to push that shit, but no option to just remove it is so dumb. Look at this garbage feature, maybe you love it next month

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            7 months ago

            YouTube Enhancer is one option but there are ones that are made just to remove shorts too.

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            I use a custom filters for uBlock Origin:

            www.youtube.com##:matches-path(/)a#thumbnail[href*="/shorts"]:upward(7)

            www.youtube.com##:matches-path(/)a#endpoint[title*="Shorts"]

            Might need some adjusting depending on OS and browser (I use this for chrome on mac.)

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              Thanks.

              I was more interested in the way the other person said.

              They said you can do it in the YT app for 30 days at a time. I can’t find it though. I’m limited as I’m on iOS.

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        Define too long. I like videos of up to 20 minutes. That’s long to some people. Occasionally I’ll enjoy longer videos but almost always I think to myself “you could have said the same in a much shorter video”. If you’re coming up on an hour or more, you should really look at that script again. And I won’t even open the 4 hours bullshit rambling videos. Do people actually watch that or is it just on in the background?

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          If you’re coming up on an hour or more, you should really look at that script again.

          Depends what the video is about.

          If it’s a how-to demonstrating a long and complex process, then it should be as long as it needs to be.

          But if it’s a political rant, then yeah, get to the point already.

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          Yeah the algorithm has pushed a lot of creators to 20 mind plus which can be nice for turning on while cleaning up the kitchen but sometimes I see an interesting video and Im thinking thatt if it were 5 minutes shorter I’d click but 20+ needs a lot of content to justify. Veritasium and a few others have fallen out of my rotation because there is a bit of fat on the videos these days.

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    I would like to avoid shorts entirely. If I never have to hear that ear grating robot voice ever again I will celebrate like you wouldn’t believe. Also, hearing everything 2 times because a video is designed to loop unnoticed is causing my blood to boil with unmatched hatred. Also, stop up-talking every time you speak you brainless degenerates. >:-( (not any of you here on Lemmy, ya’ll are cool)

    If this stuff could stop polluting our ears and our eyes, I would love that.

    Having said that, I think they’re banning it because of all the people talking shit about them on there. I can’t imagine an American politician doing a good thing for good reasons.

    Consequently, I find myself in the position of being a pro-TikTok TikTok hater.

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        It should tell you a lot about what the app is actually for if bytedance is going to completely remove it from the market rather than sell it off to allow it to keep running …

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    I don’t use tiktok, and I use revanced (patched youtube client) partially to hide all of the shorts.

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      Good for you, it makes one attention span short as a little kid, … I hate it when my friends get their phone out while we’re outside and start doom scrolling ( switching ) shorts on YT/Tiktok… whatever…

      At first I was patient about it, but now as soon as they switch to the second short I tell them to hide their phones, it’s so @#&@% rude…😤

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    I hate it because I watch it but don’t enjoy it at all. It just wastes my time. It’s addictive but not in the good way like a video game that draws you in, but in the “help I can’t control myself” kind of way. FUCK THE ALGORITHM

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    I really despise the short form content format, but YouTube does a good job of recommending long form content that I’ll enjoy

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    I use YouTube shorts but it mostly shows me garbage I don’t want to watch, sprinkled with videos from channels I already subscribe to. For a company so hungry for my data, Google sure is terrible at recommending relevant videos to me.

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    I hate shorts and never used TikTok. I resisted on YouTube for so long, but they just worse what you see and you’ll click them eventually.

    I’ve noticed I’m scrolling them more and more and I don’t like that they’re able to do this to our brains. Particularly those of us with things like ADHD.

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    I’ve heard YouTubers say they aren’t making as much from their regular videos and that YouTube is pushing shorts. So the Youtubers have started to focus on shorts. I don’t like short so I don’t watch them.