• @GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip
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    12 days ago

    DRM were in the game consistently and known beforehand. You see it starting up before the game itself launches. You cannot play the game for a second without it.

    Psn was not required for 99% of the game’s lifetime, was listed in Sony’s TOS as optional for PC users up until the recent fiasco, and is not available in many regions the game has been sold. Also, Sony got hacked like a dozen times in a handful of years.

    Now why would one of those go down relatively smoothly and the other not?

    • @kworpyOP
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      They stated that PSN was required from the start, and I get that it has shitty privacy and security but if you’re fine with a sketchy Korean company having root level access to your computer then I don’t get how that’s a problem. I dislike sony as much as the next person but this is just a hypocritical argument.

      • @GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip
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        912 days ago

        More than anything it is a matter of principle and choice.

        Yes, the psn thing was listed somewhere deep down the steam page, where most users dont bother to look and people who are gifted the game will never ckeck. It was also disabled almost immediately, and many thousands of players bought the game and played it for months without ever being asked or informed to make a psn account. Evidently the game runs perfectly fine as is without any need or tangible advantage to enable it now, aside from obvious corporate greed. Even the security pretense they tried doesn’t track because as you point out there is a very invasive anti cheat running anyway.

        Meanwhile the anti cheat was also very unpopular, but players could make that choice themselves because it is well known, prominently displayed, and has been consistently a part of the game.

        Also, it is not hypocritical at all. One is for mostly legitimate reasons like cheat protection, the other is obvious and pure corporate greed. Not to mention that the assumption that if a person is willing to compromise their data to one party, they should he willing to give it to anyone else who asks as well, is a logical fallacy.

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          Even worse, it was probably so one bigwig could boast to have boosted new accounts by n%, and get a fat bonus.

        • @kworpyOP
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          Ok true. However I still find it ironic.

    • @Willdrick@lemmy.world
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      612 days ago

      Same here, tho sometimes it makes a tantrum and I need to verify files so it resets the prefix. Kinda annoying when the mates are ready to dive and I’m here scanning files for 5min to redownload 18kb

  • @jet@hackertalks.com
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    1312 days ago

    What’s your core argument?

    People can’t complain about PSN being retroactively added to the game because something you don’t like is already in the game?

    • @kworpyOP
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      I don’t like sony and never said I did but whatever card you need to play to feel better ig

  • @DaseinPickle@leminal.space
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    1112 days ago

    The DRM is not a problem if you run it on SteamDeck/Linux. It’s only a problem on Windows, and if you use Windows you don’t care about privacy to begin with.

    • @Eheran@lemmy.world
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      312 days ago

      Ah what a great argument. “What, you do not drive the safest car that does also not meet your needs? Well duck you, no safety needed at all, stop complaining!”

      • @DaseinPickle@leminal.space
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        312 days ago

        You can dual boot. If you absolutely need Windows for some niche app, you can always dual boot or run a virtual machine. There is no reason to run everything on Windows.

        • atocci
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          I really want HDR, especially in Helldivers, but I can’t seem to get in in Linux with my hardware.

        • @Eheran@lemmy.world
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          112 days ago

          “some niche app”… There is no reason to assume that everyone using Windows has zero interest in data safety. The same way any random Linux user that is not running arch with Tor etc.

    • @jet@hackertalks.com
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      212 days ago

      Or you’re running windows in a VM. Or you just have a dedicated game machine that only runs games. There’s a lot of things that people who care about security can do, and also use Windows