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    Well, that’s it, i guess i should vote for the asscunt who wants to end American democracy. Thanks, OP, for opening my eyes to this.

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      Yeah it’d be crazy if peaceful protests were violently attacked by right wing terrorists and the cops just joined in on the beatings

      If the Supreme Court started ignoring precedent, which they stated under oath they would not do, and started saying cases have standing even if the damaged entity literally is a hypothetical that has never happened

      If the largest union action in this generation was stomped down and made to heel

      If a violent mob literally stormed the capital while Congress was in session certifying an election and were not all prosecuted as domestic terrorists and hanged, under the most advanced security state in the world that knows exactly who was there using cellular pings

      Let me guess, you’re going to say the same thing in 2028 except all these things will have gotten worse and if we just hold our noses and tolerate it one more time the Blues will fix it all, just like they did in 2020 and 2012 and 2008 and 1992 and……….

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        And what exactly did you do in 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, and 2023?

        Because political activism doesn’t change shit if you only complain about it online every four years.

        Want to disagree? Call me a liar?

        Check any social media site during those years and let me know how strongly your little socialist movements were.

        Want change? DO THE WORK.

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        Nope. That’s not what everyone here knows what you’re doing.

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          I don’t vote for genociders. I morally can’t vote for Biden for his other failures also. I’m voting third party.

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            So you’re basically admitting to throwing away your vote. You were asked, by me- who can beat Trump if not Biden?

            You had NO answer.

            So you’re going to vote for someone that cannot win- ON PURPOSE.

            Understand that if you throw away your vote- someone is still getting elected. Your little ignorant grass roots ideological movement is irrelevant to them. You’re already canceled out and not counted. They KNOW they can count on SJWs to not vote. It happens every election year. So your decision to pout and throw a tantrum over a single issue is entirely relevant.

            But a vote can cancel out the opposition and allow those that actually want to keep democracy going a chance to continue.

            But you people want to come in a fuck everything for everyone every four years anyway, despite what I said being true. And just like every election- you’ll vanish when the time comes to take responsibility for what you’ve done.

            Every single one of you will disappear from lemmy and resurface as innocent victims when the time comes.

            Every election year. Same fucking thing.

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              yawn same screamers every election. It’s up to the party to put up somebody that can fight and win. Biden ain’t it for me. That’s democracy. I can vote for whoever I want or not vote.

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                You absolutely can. And for now, I’m allowed to call you out for being ignorant. But your ignorance just might cause America to become a dictatorship. And when that happens-

                You WILL vote for who they tell you to vote.

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              Meh. I’ve stated on here many times…

              1. I hate Trump and Biden.
              2. I’m voting third party.
              3. I’m not a Democrat.
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                You want to shoot yourself in the dick, that’s cool, IDGAF. You expect people to care about an inconsequential error made in speaking, as if we’re all light thinkers, and join you in dick-shooting? Nah, feck off.

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                  Just documenting the election cycle by posting political articles in the political sub. You don’t have to read it if it upsets you.

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                Voting 3rd party throws away your vote. Every state is going to either Biden or Trump. Period. There is no viable 3rd party.

                So you can put your vote to Biden, or you can help out the guy facing 88 felony charges, wants a war with Mexico, and through Project 2025 would establish an authoritarian state unheard of in American history.

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                  He’s also bashing Biden for withholding arms to Israel. These people seem to think it’ll be just as bad anyway, so why bother.

                  They won’t understand how bad it’s going to be.

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                1. Yet you seemingly only post anti-Biden half-truths and bullshit.
                2. We know. You’ve made your decision to throw away a vote VERY clear. And you do have that right.
                3. Trust me when we say…. We know you’re not a democrat.
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    Calling attention to this type of shit as a reason to suggest Biden shouldn’t be elected is about as bad faith as it can get. OP has been asked- of the third party candidates, who could beat Trump? They predictably had no response. But if this makes Biden unelectable, they’d better hope that their throwaway choice has never made a mistake in their lives- otherwise, admit this is just another attempt to skew the outcome in their favor. And if they have such a hate boner for Biden, what do you think it could be.

    Lastly, It’s always good to see this stuff called out for what it is. I have hope that maybe lemmy won’t turn into a right-wing or far-left propaganda platform after all. Democrats aren’t putting up their best option- and haven’t in a long time, but pushing a non-vote or throwaway vote agenda at this time in our lives with everthing at stake is quite possibly the dumbest thing one could possibly do.

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      I have hope that maybe lemmy won’t turn into a right-wing or far-left propaganda platform after all.

      Ah, yes. The centrist. Defender of the status quo.

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        ROFL… okay man. This is hopeless. Keep posting your propaganda. We’ll keep calling it out. Come November, if Trump wins- you’re going to vanish from here and resurface as an anonymous victim of your own actions. And we won’t have to deal with you…

        If Biden wins, we’ll be too busy celebrating not becoming a dictatorship to listen to anything you’re going to whine about- and we won’t have to deal with you.

        Until then, keep posting your hit-pieces. I’m loving watching it get methodically picked apart.

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          If Trump wins, it was all your fault!!!

          If Biden wins, we didn’t need you!!!

          K. Blue MAGA gonna Blue MAGA.

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            If Trump wins, it could end up partially being your fault. From the third party votes to the pouting at home non votes. Yes. Depending on the margin of loss- you might be entirely responsible for the outcome.

            If Biden wins. No- we didn’t need you. Because that’s how it works. Do you not understand that no one can know right now what the outcome is going to be? OF COURSE your votes are needed now- but if he wis without them, then…. Yes- we didn’t need you.

            And this whole “blue Maga” insult of yours just makes you look like a foolish and clueless teenager to everyone.

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      Who else is being offered that can beat Trump. Answer the question without any double-talk, whataboutism, back-tracking, diversions, or questions of your own.

      Simply:

      Who else being offered can beat Trump.

      Because it seems you just like to post the problems and not any solutions. And that’s about as suspiciously bad-faith as it can get.

      So… change my mind- answer the question.

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        They’ll swap out Biden at the DNC convention in June August. At this point, I don’t think Biden can beat Trump. He’s polling as the worst POTUS in 70 years (favorability). We’re just fucked.

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          The DNC convention is in August, and no, they aren’t going to swap out a sitting President unless there’s a huge medical event between now and then.

          RNC is July, that might be what confused you.

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          Just to point out how much you’re ignorant in the matter, the convention is in August.

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          So… you have no answer to the question and did exactly what I knew you would. Do you really expect to be taken seriously when you can’t overcome a single question that opposes your view?

          Rethink things man. You’re wrong. MOST of the time.

          Oh, also…. Polls are bullshit. And you’ve already been fact checked on the polls thing you posted a while ago. So stop spreading that incorrect bullshit.