• garth@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    We can’t keep giving up historical symbols and flags each time some assholes decide to adopt them. The pine tree flag is objectively cool and a part of Americans’ shared history. It should not be allowed to become an exclusively right-wing nationalist symbol.

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      6 months ago

      I’m sad that it’s gotten to the point where I assume people with a dozen+ American flags in their yard are right-wing nationalists…

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        6 months ago

        That’s fair. One is normal. More than that is weird.

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            6 months ago

            You know how many houses in Japan fly the Japanese flag? Zero!

            Outside of government buildings and the largest train stations, I almost never see the Japanese flag in public.

            In fact, because of curry restaurants and fly-by-night English schools, I see the Union Jack and the Nepalese flag more often than I do the Japanese flag.

            So, yeah, anyone who stabs their front lawn with tiny American flags like Uncle Sam went minesweeping is a weirdo.

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            6 months ago

            But what if a space alien lands on the planet but forgot to bring a geopolitical map with them and needed to find out what country they are in so they can ask to see our leader but they have to inefficiently resort to trying out different languages on people instead of looking up and seeing a national flag which would give them the data they need to proceed to ask to see our leader in the correct language?

          • spicy pancake@lemmy.zip
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            6 months ago

            to be fair it’s a pretty flag and represents the entire nation of people, not just the shitty government and fucked up history

            i think of all the good people i love in my country when i see my flag. it makes me sad to think it’s also a symbol of so much bad shit :( but i also understand. :(

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            I think normal depends entirely on where you were raised. Most of the homes in my neighborhood displayed a single American flag when I was a kid. I do the same as an adult, and I’m glad the sick magalunatics make it easy for us to pick them out with their desperate cries for attention, and their fuck your feelings flags.

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            6 months ago

            One is pretty normal for career military too. Doesn’t matter on politics, but there’s certainly a right leaning tendency

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              My s/o has a couple from military. He’s def not right leaning. I think they’re more like memorabilia.

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          I agree with you, but I grew up in a place where people actually have national pride. And just to be exceedingly clear, that is different from Christofascism and white nationalism. And yes, I did vote for Obama.

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        Just a single flag with no mitigating signage and I assume it is a Christofascist. It’s not as strong of a signal as Blue Line, Swastika, or Repub campaign yard sign but you’ll be right more than half the time. Two US flags is like 99% certainty.

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      Unfortunately, there’s no stopping them. Appropriation is part and parcel with them since they make up for their overabundance of vitriol with a tendency towards a complete lack of productive creativity.

      Another example is the Gadsden Flag. It was originally an anti-colonial flag designed during the Revolutionary war, but nowadays it’s mostly a libertarian “don’t stop me from stepping on others” flag. Here’s some parody versions, though:

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      6 months ago

      In Canada you can’t fly an official Canadian flag without looking like a right wing nutjob.

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      6 months ago

      January 6th was done by ANTIFA so does this mean Johnson is an ANTIFA supporter since he’s flying an ANTIFA flag?

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        Jan. 6 is a quantum superposition of antifas feds, tour group, and true patriots. Each conversation with a Repub collapses the waveform into a single state.

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    6 months ago

    A reprehensible as anyone flying that flag is, Mike Johnson is expected to be a deeply biased shithead who aligns with civilian groups. Being objectionable to good reasonable democracy-loving liberals is part of their performance. The Alito story is a very different thing and I don’t think it strengthens that case to try to hunt down every instance of people in government flying the flag.

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    6 months ago

    Y’all need no Jesus

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      They know the meaning. Most of the ones I grew up around chose to believe that since “separation of church and state” doesn’t appear in the Constitution that it was a fringe idea a couple of the founding fathers had, that “liberals” today have made into a bigger deal than it should be so they can keep “persecuting” Christians.

      Christian nationalism takes all the dogmatic thinking they have about the Bible being instructions from an infallible, all knowing God, that must be followed, and applies that thinking to the US Constitution and the founding fathers. Once you’re in the mindset of reading something like it’s absolute truth that can’t be questioned (at least the parts that tell you you’re wrong, the parts that say I’m wrong are different), it’s easy to get stuck in that mindset for everything you read.

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    Wait, is the Christian nationalist flag the one with the Stewart Clan crest?

    Why is the Stewart Crest on a Christian Nationalist flag?

    Edit: new question: why is the Stewart Clan Crest outside his office?

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      The flag with the pelican? That’s the state flag of Louisiana. It looks nothing like the badge of clan Stewart, except that they both have pelicans.

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        Behind it…you have to click the link to see the fill image… two flags on the right.

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        I’ve seen some (likely incorrect) renditions that depict it head-on like that. It’s a pelican feeding its young. The description for the crest is “A pelican Argent, winged Or, in her nest feeding her young, Proper.” a clearer picture makes the difference more obvious, but I’m sure you can understand how I got confused.