• Schwim Dandy
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    24
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    1 month ago

    The US has never been a democracy. Even if we weren’t governed by corporate entities, the definition of democracy does not include anything close to the electoral college.

    • KevonLooney
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      1 month ago

      I think that’s too strict of a definition. There’s a gradation between democracy and authoritarianism. But you are correct; the US is actually more of a democracy than it has ever been.

      • lars@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 month ago

        the US is more of a democracy than it has ever been

        During every census, the least populous states, which are not politically moderate places, get an even louder voice in Congress.

        Meanwhile, 1 in 8 Americans live in California. But they get but a whisper per capita in terms of representation in Washington. Boooooooo.

  • pop@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 month ago

    US was founded by rich guys not wanting to pay taxes to the British. The brainwashing of the common folks made to do the bidding for the rich was always there, since the very beginning.

    What did hell did ya expect?

  • aStonedSanta
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    1 month ago

    Correct. It’s an oligarchy and has been defined as such for many years.

  • audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    14
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    1 month ago

    Technically it’s a democratic republic based on a federal system.

    Also, reminder: the electoral college was a compromise designed to give more weight to slave-owning states.

    • pop@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      1 month ago

      If you have to compromise so much as to barely and forcefully cling to a definition, might as well call China a democracy by some weird, fucked up “technicality”.

      Also, reminder: the electoral college was a compromise designed to give more weight to slave-owning states.

      No need for reminders, we know how low it can go or has gone and still calls themselves the “greatest nation”.

      • lars@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 month ago

        greatest nation

        I’m ultra resentful about having heard that so often as a kid. So not only was my country’s identity built on a lie, but many of us were fed that garbage and are offended when it is questioned, so I mourn this loss sometimes, but must do it mostly privately.

        North Koreans feel this same sting when they flee their country and find out that their own nationalist propaganda is found laughable to outsiders, but their loss is spectacularly worse than the irritation I feel sometimes.

  • Nougat@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    1 month ago

    “The will of the people” is neither monolithic nor necessarily correct.