• BarqsHasBite@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I’m afraid you missed my whole point. Dems can’t go left when they keep losing elections. When they lose elections, they go to the center to find votes.

    If you want Dems to go left, give them consistent and overwhelming victories.

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      4 months ago

      and you’re missing the point of those dates, which is all the victories the Dems have been given. Despite them, they’ve always gone consistently further and further right while winning elections, because the only thing that actually motivates the Democratic party are corporate donors. It’s why the party cannot be saved; it’s as beholden to corporate interests as the right.

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        4 months ago

        What are you on about. 1968 was Nixon. 1980 was Reagan. 1984 was Reagan. 1988 was Bush senior. 2000 was Bush junior. 2016 was Trump. I don’t know why they included 2020.

        Dems have only had control of all 3 (house senate presidency) for 2009-2011 and 2021-2023. They have had control for 4 years of the last 24 years. If you include Bill Clinton, then it’s 6 years of the last 32 years. If you go back further then it’s 6 years of the last 44 years. Those are the victories Dems have been given and it’s next to nothing. You desperately need to get your facts straight.

        The next lesson: When they don’t have control of all 3 (house, senate, presidency), they need to negotiate with the GOP to pass anything. And guess what, the GOP doesn’t want anything to pass so they block everything. That’s why Dems need all 3 to get anything done. And they’ve only had it for 6 out of the last 44 years.

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      4 months ago

      Policies pushed by progressives have the popular support, of anything it’s Dems being mikquetoast corporate doormats (you’re “center”) that costs them elections.

      Then when they have the chance they don’t pull out the stops and use the tools they have.

      The only reason Republicans are even in contention is that they play the government game better. They know all the rules, and will use any tricks to turn the game to their favor, even into illegality. Dems play by some 50 year old decorum that was last honored under Carter, in other words, they’ve been outmaneuvered on every issue before they even get the mic - that’s why the only thing Democrats do consistently is pass Republican written legislation.

      A spineless sellout feck does not inspire, and remember, Democrats need to fall in love, while Republicans fall in line.