Ukraine’s allies are scrambling to secure long-term aid for Kyiv amid fears about a second Trump term.

I know Trump’s word is worth less than dogshit, but hypothetically, he’s now the harm reduction candidate when it comes to Ukraine.

Of course the liberals of reddit are hand-wringing about Putin and “tHe FrEe WoRlD”

  • ZZZZedong [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    16·
    3 months ago

    Prediction:

    He is gonna get elected and but wont cut of the aid.

    chuds are gonna praise and like he did something.

    Libs are gonna cry that he surrendering to Russia

  • Tachanka [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    12·
    3 months ago

    oh no what ever will the ukrainians do without the US privatizing their economy, fueling their civil war, and demanding they fight endlessly against Russia in one of the most pointless murderfests of all time.

  • RyanGosling [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    11·
    3 months ago

    My favorite part about tbis is that democrats have no desire to put in place safeguards to prevent him from doing this (even though he’s subservient to the deep state as anyone else). They’ll cry and blame tankies and Putler and 50 cent armies but they will do absolutely nothing to prevent Trump from ruining their agenda.

    Useless freaks. Even if i cared about voting and ukraine, i wouldn’t vote for the losers who are incapable and/or unwilling to use their powers to crush their opponents. Unless they’re unarmed college students of course.

  • quarrk [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    5·
    3 months ago

    Trump only wants to pull out of Ukraine in order to intensify the focus on China. Biden wants to weaken Russia first because he thinks China can’t be beat before they are isolated.

  • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    3·
    3 months ago

    He may promise to shift from Ukraine to China, to escalate another trade war and more. I don`t know which one the CPC prefers but certainly Trump is even more likely to do something stupid in Taiwan specially if they pitch it to him like an opportunity to surpass Biden.

    He may be better on Ukraine but he is same or worse everywhere else. Everything points towards China now so if he realizes he can trade Ukraine with his own war against China he will get broad support from everyone except the few aligned with the tech megacorps and he is just as likely to win.

    Putin was willing to negotiate before the war, but the CPC can only continue to compromise up to a certain point.

    • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      4·
      3 months ago

      :yea: as I understand it, militarily, the American empire is using Ukraine to encircle Russia first then using their experience there to use what they learn for the fascists in the RoC. But because chuds think Russia is based, they want to go on all out war with China immediately because of gommulism.

      • KobaCumTribute [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        5·
        3 months ago

        Imagining a cold, calculating general trying to explain this strategy to a state department ghoul who’s wearing branded merch from every arms dealer in the country and who keeps miming rubbing dollar bills together and grinning and interrupting to say “this guy knows what I’m talking about” and elbowing the similarly dressed CIA ghoul next to him.

  • chickentendrils [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    2·
    3 months ago

    doubt just needs the MIC to cut him in or lean on him like obviously happened with the GOP house speaker

    That April 2022 peace deal is going to have been the best deal the average civilian governed by UA could’ve gotten this decade… Obviously so, because it would have avoided most of the refugee crisis, risk of thermonuclear escalation and winter, destruction of built environment, and some of both the further entrenching of the existing fascist oligarchy & requisite IMF/World Bank loans and austerity to rebuild shittier.

  • alexandra_kollontai [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    2·
    3 months ago

    I know Trump’s word is worth less than dogshit, but hypothetically, he’s now the harm reduction candidate when it comes to Ukraine.

    Can you explain? Do you mean because this will force a Ukraine surrender and prevent more war and death?

    • MemesAreTheory [he/him, any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      15·
      3 months ago

      Exactly that. We often quip that “America is willing to fight this war to the last Ukrainian.” That’s barely sarcasm if you listen to the words uttered by the ghouls in power directly, who crow proudly about how they are weakening Russia without the cost of any American lives. Ukraine has been pressing men into service, abducting them off the streets and from the arms of their loved ones, so they might be forced to the front line and be turned into pink mist. This presentation of events is not to give favor or preference to Russia, but simply to acknowledge that the slaughter could not continue without Western Aid and support. This war would have been over long ago had Ukraine simply ceded the two breakaway provinces, but with the meddling of NATO and particularly the US and UK, it has been egged on until hundreds of thousands are now dead or permanently maimed. All this is an exercise of expanding military industrial complex executives yearly bonuses, impoverishing Europe so they are more reliant on the US and less independent, and expanding markets for Western capital. How cheap other people’s lives are in the eyes of our overlords.