I’ve tried using my incredible (british) brain using Google to see if these open source titans ever engaged in a battle of “friendly conversation” with one another.

I was always interested what Stallman thought of the angry but smart finnish man who gave us the robust penguin kernel that breathes life into older machines and powers supercomputers for the weather.

The same with Torvalds thoughts on Stallmans GNU involvement and him as a person.

This is because you sometimes had different organisations in the FOSS and OSS community that take on different meanings so I wanted a better idea if these chaps ever spoke in an interview together.

TLDR : Does finnish man like bearded GNU jesus man and the same vice versa

    • pingveno@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      3 days ago

      I tried Debian/Herd on a spare box. I think that lasted for what, a week? It was a less than complete experience, so I moved on to more fruitful experiments.

      • ...m...@ttrpg.network
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        3 days ago

        …i’m absolutely ignorant of its current state, but every time i’ve checked in on progress of GNU/hurd over the past three decades, it still hasn’t matured into a stable production-ready platform: i’m not sure if that’s an artifact of technical viability or developer interest…

        • Octorine@midwest.socialEnglish
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          3 hours ago

          Both, I think.

          It’s built in top of Mach, which has some architectural issues that aren’t fixable without a huge amount of work.

          And no one’s interested in doing that work because we already have Linux and Linux is fine.

          There have been a couple of pretty good post mortems over the years. I think one of them is on gnu.org somewhere.

          • ...m...@ttrpg.network
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            47 minutes ago

            …NeXTstep was built on mach and, although i’m unsure if any antecedents remain in macOS, it was certainly production-ready in its day; i remember a couple of decades ago there were stopgap versions of the HURD built on top of mach instead of their own microkernel but i thought that was only ever intended as a temporary workaround…

            …i presume on that basis that sustained developer interest was its greatest hurdle, no pun intended…

            edit: …is this the post-mortem you mentioned?..

        • pingveno@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          3 days ago

          I wasn’t able to get a good read on it either. I didn’t spot anything obviously wrong from a technical standpoint, but I’m not a systems developer. It just doesn’t have much that distinguishes it on a non-technical level. The design is neat, but other OS projects like Redox have shot past it in a shorter period of time. That tells me something’s broken, whether it’s technical or social.