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      2 months ago

      The polling so far gives me doubt.

      I want someone who isn’t Trump to win this fucking election, I don’t personally care who it is as long as they can deliver. My concern is that Harris can’t and, if so, she should step back as well.

      This isn’t a time for “Well I gave it my all”. Have a plan to win or GTFO.

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        My concern is that Harris can’t

        I think she’ll get a huge bump when/if she’s the named candidate.

        Progressives are pretty experienced at holding our noses, especially if there’s plausible deniability about the candidate.

        I’m a lot more confident in her chances than Joe’s, and I think she’s the only other option the DNC will give us.

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          The youth don’t traditionally vote for “Not Trump” - we need to actually excite the voters.

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            2 months ago

            What happened in 2020?

            Harris will be enough, just like Joe was last time.

            Because it’s easier to ignore potential disappointment than ignore an ongoing disappointment

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                Well what they said was that she had too much baggage from Bill. And wasn’t likeable. And wasn’t Bernie. And didn’t look like a President. I dunno, I voted for her and so did everyone I know. Seemed like entrenched misogyny to me.

                But Roe was the law of the land back then. Might make a difference.

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                Bill?

                He was young, charismatic, and pretended to be very progressive when campaigning…

                Worked.out great. Then we doubled down with Obama after that.

                Then for some reason after that we’ve just been running elderly unpopular candidates that are more conservative than Dem voters…

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        2 months ago

        Yes, this. Let’s whip up some real competition and select someone that we can really get normies to rally behind.

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      I’m ambivalent to slightly negative on Harris (mostly because I still don’t know what her health care plan is) but at least she can express her thoughts coherently. If nothing else I feel confident in her ability to articulate the case against a felon given her background as a prosecutor.

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        Yeah, no one’s saying she’ll be great.

        She just meets the incredibly low bar of looking great next to trump. Joe cant

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        I don’t think Kamala would have fumbled the debate. I think she would have put Trump in his place and called him out on his bullshit lies. We would be having a different discussion and who knows, maybe a loaner kid would still be alive today.