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    29 days ago

    Muhammed Ali tried to knock out George Foreman

    King Arthur tried to pull Excalibur from the stone

    Michael Phelps tried to win an Olympic medal

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      If you want to get that semantic, the second they said the words they completed their “try” and did define him as a selfish man.

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        Oh, I didn’t even think about it that way. I wasn’t arguing with you, I was giving other examples of things that are well-known and acting as though they’re in doubt.

        I 100% agree with your comment and was just giggling along with the ridiculousness of the headline.

        Like, “trying to define Trump as a fraud” is like trying to define fish as good swimmers: maybe sometimes they aren’t, but it’s pretty much all they do.

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          Absolutely the headline is ridiculous. Apologies for the misunderstanding.

          Most time you use try when someone fails or has yet to do something, nyt is so biased lately.

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            I should apologize for being so ambiguous!

            I should test out this kind of language on my wife:

            I tried to get to the bathroom before I pissed the bed last night.

            I tried cooking you some eggs.

            I’m sure it’ll be really healthy for our relationship.

            NYT isn’t just biased, they’re downright abusive