Cake day is cute
Yes. I mean, just because your stupid neighbour celebrates their birthday, it doesn’t mean you would stop celebrating your birthday just to be different.
Counterpoint: birthdays (and cake days, and many anniversaries) are a pointless celebration.
Payton Oswalt had a pretty good plan on that: https://youtu.be/sbJs-Ul1QFo
How are they pointless if they bring people joy? I know there are exceptions but I’m pretty sure people generally really like birthdays…
I will need an explanation of this one. Are you saying that people don’t like birthdays?
Just that once you hit a certain age….its no longer fun to be reminded
Well, maybe he means that you should celebrate actual achievements instead of dates that just happen every year. The YouTube video he linked didn’t tell to completely stop celebrating birthdays. Just limit it to a total of 20 birthdays for most people (you get more if you live really old).
What if you’re working the same 9-5 job five days a week and it pays you well and you’re happy yet you don’t have any new achievements
Have we really gotten to the point of being demeaning to people simply because they celebrate their fucking birthday?
NO HAPPINESS ALLOWED! GET BACK TO THE COAL MINES!
The official lemmy interfaces don’t track those things.
The official lemmy interfaces don’t track those things.
Cake Days are shown in the default web interface. Like for this user who posted further down in this thread:
IMO the issue is not copying cherry picked good features from Reddit, but to indiscriminately copy features because “since Reddit has it, Lemmy got to have it too”, without paying attention if they actually benefit the Threadiverse.
Bots are one thing like that. Communities could have features built in that was not possible on Reddit since admins are part of the community now.
Good catch on bots - they’re a great example of that, since the underlying idea (less busy work) is 100% worth copying but not the implementation.
In fact IMO Lemmy bots are already a bit too similar to Reddit bots in a bunch of undesirable ways. For example they’re created and kept as “pseudo-users”, instead of tools associated with a (human) user in their profile.
Tldr I don’t think this is an unpopular opinion.
Cake day?
I have no idea what day I first started using lemmy, or when I made an account. I’m okay not knowing.
As for “karma”, do any instances track total karma, or just per-comment? Honestly I don’t give a shit if my comments do well or not, I don’t live for other people’s amusement.
As for other people, I can’t speak for them, but I haven’t seen anyone crying for lemmy to be more like reddit.
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Mostly I like the ways it’s not like reddit, but I miss ‘disable inbox replies’
Drop controversial comment
“Disable comment replies”
Sometimes you just have something to say but have high confidence that continuing the conversation beyond that isn’t going to be productive. I like having the option to not be tempted.
Man, I’d love thrm to add that to lemmy, sometimes I live up to my username and would like to ignore the comments.
Cake day is the day / aniversary of registering on the site.
I didn’t think karma existed on Lemmy? Or maybe it was removed in ann update?
It exists, your total just isn’t visible to anyone but admins.Users’ aggregate post and comment score has been entirely removed from the Lemmy API (as of version 0.19.0 if I remember correctly). It is not easily accessible to anyone, including admins. You could write a script to sum a user’s aggregate score.
This pleases me greatly. This is the ethos.
Oh I guess I missed that update. Thanks for the correction.
its completely public via non-lemmy systems https://moist.catsweat.com/u/@LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
Interesting. Your instance is from another platform, right? Is it Piefed or mbin?
Is this just basically karma or what does it mean?
yep, im coming from an mbin instance. its basically karma… upvotes - downvotes.
it really helps identifying spammers/trolls quickly.
Thanks. I love that we’ve got several active alternatives we can communicate with on the threadiverse now. I like Lemmy but I hope they continue to proliferate.
Does it persist through comment/post removal/deletion?
i believe mbin has cascading deletes, which should alter the aggregation if things get deleted.
Isn’t it worthless though? I mean I could award myself karma on my servers communities or just hack it up.
no. Its great for catching trolls.
it literally hurts no one for existing
Well, in that your upvote total and ratio can be calculated, at least. Does it actually do anything, or can it do anything, like it did on reddit? Subs having minimum karma thresholds, that sort of thing? If not, it’s truly meaningless and can be safely ignored by everyone.
That’s what I do.
Not sure if I should downvote this popular opinion in the unpopular opinion sub or upvote it, for more people to see this wholesome take.
I had to look at the community rules to see what to do as well:
If you agree that the opinion is unpopular give it an arrow up. If it’s something that’s widely accepted, give it an arrow down.
What is the protocol for when I don’t have enough data to assess how popular an opinion is and I want to spread and support it to make it more popular of an opinion?
welp, i decided not to do anything 😅
how do we reward original content?
Toothpaste.
I literally do not and have never cared about votes or awards.
Happy cake day tho, lol
Lol it actually is. Boost for Lemmy doesn’t show it, had to go on his profile to see the date
Voyager (on android) puts a little cake-slice emoji 🍰 next to people’s names. I get tickled because I joined during one of the big exodi from Reddit so I share cake day with a lot of other people.
I know the cake-slice emoji from Apollo - Voyager is a clone of it. Never knew other people didn’t necessarily see them. I thought it was (R****t) site wide. TIL
Enjoy Lemmy Gold, kind stranger!
The beluga prosciuttoes at 8pm
I haven’t had coffee yet and that took me way too long to understand 😂
How would Lemmy reward original content?
Hamburgers or tacos.
Bacon or we riot.
So you’re in favor of the Reddit2 proposition then…
Unclear on what that is…
Reddit used to be overrun with mentions of bacon
I think they meant beans.
Beans and beans and beans and beans and beans.
If rather not think about that.
You’d cause a bloody revolution in the eco.br instance if you don’t offer coxinha as an alternative reward.
Hamberders.
When something is posted, automatically search to see if that exact thing has been posted before. If it has, then deduct a percent of votes, with the percent increasing each time that exact thing has been posted before. Say, if it’s been posted once before, then you deduct 1%, if it’s been posted twice, then 2%, and so forth. Feel free to adjust this math in a way that makes the most sense.
If something is legitimately excellent, or if enough people have forgotten it to upvote the repost, then reposts can still make their way to the frontpage.
Otherwise, repeat posts will naturally wither away, while encouraging original content.
Upvotes and downvotes don’t mean as much here.
Or we all hope Reddit continues as it is, not as a hotbed of original content like it was 10+ years ago, but as a place to rehost content found on other sites, and watch it fade into obscurity so better-run platforms can fill the void
All social media is just reposting from other social media sites.
Ouroboros
Let’s get rid of cake day but there is already no karma on Lemmy meaning no general upvote count. It will be much harder to find anything if we get rid of a voting system and the one we have is probably the most transparent and easy-to-understand one 2 opposite force and to possibility to choose neighter.
Strongly agreed.
I’m reminded of the scene in Groundhog Day in which they have that one day that just unfolds naturally and is so wonderful, and then the next time through, the Bill Murray character tries to duplicate it, and it’s just awful and cringey.
Lemmy, given the chance, will (continue to) develop its own norms and memes and traditions, and be that much better for it. Just trying to duplicate Reddit here is not only doomed to failure, but cringey.
The reverse can also happen, though. Many of the features of Reddit are there because they are good, so if we just strive to be different for the sake of being different that will end up awful too.
Who said anything about striving to be different?
That’s at least as cringey as striving to be the same, and generally even more so.
They may have been good in the beginning, but they got fucking hammered to death instantly and became tired tropes in less than a week.
I vote that lemmy diverges and does its own thing so we can beat our own tropes to death almost instantly
I think it’s important for developers to stay active within the community and try to understand how the community uses the tools available and what additions or changes are desired or would be beneficial. Obviously people disagree about what those things are at times, but I think with patience and empathy we can iterate ideas and get to better places.
I see people posting more and more news on Lemmy and I enjoy that, but it does make the need for tools that fight disinformation. Maybe that’s the source-checker bot (feels like a stopgap to me) or maybe that’s a combination of new ui and api features that draw from Twitter’s community fact-checking and how some instances are use bias-checkers.
Moderation tools are always in need of improvement too.
Hey I even think silly shit like emoji reactions and awards have a place for people that prefer less verbal forms of interaction but still want nuance or whimsy.
The only thing I miss here are active niche communities. Other than that, it’s so much better than Spez’s data vacuuming service.
Did Reddit invent cake days? I thought that was a Digg thing.
