Ok. So now that you have scrolled down a bit and are reading let’s bother you by hiding the whole page behind a newsletter subscription prompt that has an almost invisible „x“ in the corner to close it.
It seems like you accidentally moved your mouse to the side of the screen, let me introduce you to some unfogettable deal, I’m pretty sure you didn’t wanted to leave yet.
Oh, you clicked on the back button, but fortunately we can override that, so you can enjoy another popup before we allow you to go back to That other website.
The really horrendous ones actually permanently break your back button, so you have no choice but to close the tab and start over.
Firefox allows you to right-click the back button to see a drop-down of your history. This also works on mobile using a long press. But idk if the chromium browsers have that feature.
Some sights have right click disabled too.
That’s only on the page itself, not the browser. Doesn’t matter what site you visit, you can right click the back button and anything else that’s not part of the web page.
On PC, try clicking and holding on back button, it will show history for the current tab. You can go back from there.
Sweet!
Oh you closed that? Yeah, we’re just going to hide the rest of the article and show you links to other articles so we can show you that pop-up again.
I have never once in my life desired a notification from a website.
People are fucking weird, dude. I used to be a professional blogger. I never put any pop-ups or subscription bullshit on my website because I am really opposed to that shit, even though “the money is in the list”. As an experiment one time I put a sign up on the homepage temporarily. I didn’t offer anything. I didn’t have any snazzy sales lingo. It just said “Sign up to be notified when new posts are published”. I got hundreds of sign-ups per day from real people. I guess in this case it made a little sense, since they were quality articles written by a human who was passionate about the subject, but still! Stop giving your email address to everyone, ya flipping weirdos!
I grew up with computers and the internet, i learned from a young age to never click on pop ups, never use your real name or adress, have a burner e-mail, spot a scam and things like that. My friends were pretty much the same, because we all shared knowledge. When i was 20 or so i went to a friends house whom i only knew for a year. We used his family computer to book a flight or something. I never witnessed such horror. The computer was sloooooow as fuck, and riddled with every virus on the planet. Watching him use that computer was painful. It took like 5 minutes to load a website, in the meantime he was playing pop up pool, played a pop up roulette wheel and looked at pop up ads. It was something i never even imagined, because i assumed everyone would avoid these like the pest.
Same. I was taught that the Internet was for anonymity. You never supplied details from your real life to the internet and largely treated it as a hostile environment. The Internet was cool and full of information but also dangerous. Today I am still a little weirded out by how open people are with their personal information online.
What really gets me about it is that these very same parents that taught us how to safely navigate the internet are now the MAGAts on Facebook posting openly terroristic threats under their legal name and donating to Trump’s scam central.
Like, I could understand if it was the kids who never got taught better. But these people know. I know for a fact they know because they taught ME half my web safety knowledge.
Something in modern society - I choose to blame the news cycle, but it’s almost certainly more - has done something extremely scary to all our parents.
I’m gonna take a shot in the dark and say the impact of lead poisoning and micro plastics is way worse than anyone realizes yet. It feels like I am actively watching my parents mental decline and they are only about 60.
There are a select few where I want notifications. Basically email, chat, calendar… and nothing else.
I could see a weather one if it just notified about weather. that being said I have other ways to get notifications than in my browser.
Same, if I was to draw a Venn diagram of “websites I visit” and “notifications I need”, the circles would be so far apart they’d be at opposite ends of the universe.
Browsers should make that feature much easier to fully disable. Same goes for location data, which an alarming amount of websites now seem to request despite having no need for it.
The only one I enable is: https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/
Is it rainy in space?
Coronal Mass Ejections straight to Uranus.
Forced account to use site
Get junk mail
Click ‘unsubscribe’
Log in to adjust email preferences
Incorrect password
Password reset
You cannot use a previous password to reset
Email: you’ve forgotten your password
Email: security update -someone is trying to log in
Email: here’s your 10% off coupon
Email: welcome to our website!
EVERY FUCKING TIME
Same for YouTube videos!
Intro to their channel: 10 excruciatingly long seconds of annoying music with their logo.
Description of video: Another 10-15 seconds
Then… “Please like and subscribe!”
Fuck no dude, I have no fucking idea if what you’re about to tell me is useful or not.
How long has YouTube been around now, we fucking know how it works, yes like and subscribe.
Why the fuck does YouTube insist people keep parroting that same shit over and over again.
Can you imagine how much storage space they would save if everyone didn’t need to upload that same damn phrase in literally every video.
They do it because it works. Unfortunately.
With kids yeah, which is the main demographic that uses YouTube, as evidenced by the biggest YouTube channels
Works with adults as well, works on the majority of people, it’s why they do it.
Yeah I hate to say it but it does remind me to do it.
I can name my 5 favorite youtubers for each of my interests and hobbies by name or channel name, I’m a grownup I know how to find what I want.
BUT I also want to support these people who make me my entertainment for free. I dont always remember to like their videos but I know its important for the algorithm to make them more money so when they say it I think “Yeah, if it means you can keep making a living off this shit… ok”
They’re not doing it for free. The few that do it for free don’t give a shit if you subscribe or not. The really successful ones make a ton of money.
Yes. Thats why I said “make a living”.
The content to me is free, I dont have to pay to watch it.
Maybe we should end each comment we make with a footer that says, “If you liked this comment, please smash that upvote button!”
I mean, if you were getting paid for engagement, it was your primary source of income and your comments were hundreds, if not thousands of words long all the time? Sure.
Almost like it being a job makes people treat it differently or something.
Well, I’ve already gotten 4 upvotes, so I’m boot too far away from quitting my job and making this my career! I’ll get that shiny Lemmy Commenter Award and branded letter of recognition any day now.
And don’t forget to smash that upvote button!
Doesn’t work for me, I haven’t subscribed to a channel in over 6 years lol
SMASH THAT BUTTON!
Because it works. People do what they’re told to do, they’ve been conditioned their whole lives to do it.
You’ve clearly never met a Scottish person. Or a French person, for that matter
Never be afraid to ask for the sale.
The irony is that if they put it at or near the end of the video, after I have learned that I like whatever I watched, I am much more likely to do so, because I often really do just forget to like things, and a reminder near the end would in fact make me go ‘yeah, this was good, I’ll do that’.
But if they ask me to do it at the beginning, I won’t do it until I have seen enough to decide I do in fact like it.
I’ve already left and found another video by that point. But I only use YouTube to learn specific tasks, not as entertainment.
Me too, drives me nuts people linking yt vids instead of articles. I can read the same amount of info that is contained in a ten minute video in about thirty seconds.
And fuck right off if the thumbnail looks like it was designed by a colourblind five year old
wait until we get to know each other better
No. Don’t do it then either.
I mean, if you’ve been using a site regularly for a while, the idea of a newsletter may become more relevant for you. That would require cookies so the usual cookie blockers would kill that too.
If I use it regularly I don’t need a newsletter, if I don’t use it regularly then I also don’t need a newsletter.
Been alive for a few decades. Every time I think maybe I would enjoy a newsletter from this content creator/website I like, it could be good? I always end up unsubscribing. Not sure who they are made for and whether the metrics they see support using that tactic.
I see people on YouTube that clearly don’t know how to use notifications (or have too many) asking why they missed a new video when it released and I think to myself, why would I watch it on the authors convenience instead of mine? That would be going back to TV. Maybe I’m just too old and too young at the same time.
So we should err on the side of safety and assume that if the newsletter is something the user actually wants and your design isn’t complete flaming garbage, they will figure out how to sign up for it without being bombarded by that horseshit every time they visit.
Fair, bombarding them is probably the wrong move. Still, there’s a difference between seeking it out on your own and responding to an advertisement for it. There’s a reason the whole “You didn’t know it’s a thing you could want” market of neat gimmicks works, and it’s not because someone went to google “Is there a banana lunchbox with integrated peeler?”
Some people might respond to a prompt of signing up for a newsletter that otherwise wouldn’t have, so it makes sense (from a marketing perspective) to offer that prompt. It just shouldn’t be so intrusive and overeager.
But even then, still no.
Ublock everything. EVERYTHING.
Check all the boxes in the settings. (Okay maybe not all of them, cause too many filtersets going at once can break websites if you don’t know what you’re doing.)
And why do we have to do these with pop-ups? Just put it on the page somewhere. If I care enough to read your content regularly then I’ll see the notice.
I’m old enough to remember when pop-up blockers blocked pop-ups.
Pop-ups used to be new browser windows, which was fairly easy to identify and block.
Now for things like email signups they tend to be elements within a web page, and it is harder for blockers to identify the nuisance elements from the good ones.
It’s not impossible, as blockers do the same thing, but ads are more predictable across sites so it’s easier to craft blocking rules for them.
You and me both. The pop ups have evolved, and so have the pop-up blockers (now, mostly built into ad-blockers).
Apparently someone, somewhere out there is subscribing to this shit, or else they wouldn’t keep pushing it on us. And frankly, that’s both hilarious and disturbing.
I mean, I think that on basically any advertisement I see. “Why the fuck does anyone buy this shit? It is a literal attempt to get at your money”.
But here we are, ads are everywhere and possibly the most pervasive and intrusive concept we have ever come up with as a species. They get crammed into everything, seep into every place they weren’t before, despite people overwhelmingly hating them.
Yet someone must be eating them up.
About 3% of visitors will subscribe
What I hate probably the most is something mimicking a chat, sending you messages, with notification dots and everything, all in an attempt to grab your attention. I usually leave those sites faster than I got there in the first place.
Guys…how do I disable the bullshit “sign in with Google” pop up in the corner of every fucking website???
Beautiful
Fuck chat bot popups as well. Especially when I’m logged in, via VPN on a company asset to our public, Corporate Website.
at least I cant run uBlock on this install of Chrome to block element. fuck
Helpful tip: there’s a setting in Firefox to block all notification requests. It’s under Settings > Privacy & Security, then scroll down to the Permissions heading. Click the “Settings…” button next to the the Notifications entry and tick the box for “Block new requests asking to allow notifications”.
I assume there’s an equivalent in Chrome, but I don’t know what it is off the top of my head.
Ninja edit: Removed my attempt to hyperlink directly to the relevant Firefox settings page because it wasn’t working.
It’s like starting a date by whipping your dick out. Slow your fucking roll, dude.
It astounds me that marketing and engineering are still having fundamentally the same fight as in the late 90s. It’s not the technical manner in which a popup is displayed that makes it an obnoxious fucking pattern.
