Watching it for the first time just I watched Prometheus a week ago and kinda liked it.

And so far I’m liking it but, damn, sending your whole crew down to an UNKNOWN PLANET with not protective equipment? Like wtf, just cuz the atmosphere is breathable doesn’t mean there won’t be, I dunno, SOME WEIRD ALIEN DISEASE??? As well as several other potentially deadly things, like idk psychic plants or aliens that say hello by ripping your genitals off.

Do characters in SciFi stories ever read SciFi? Come on this is like 101 shit bro.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    24
    ·
    9 days ago

    One of the possible characteristics of a good horror movie is that every character makes the correct decision given the information they have at the time and still perish because the scope of the danger is simply beyond them.

    Convenant ain’t that movie.

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    edit-2
    9 days ago

    Yeah what gets me is that the characters in Prometheus and Covenant are supposed to be top scientists and constantly do things a rookie scientist even wouldn’t do.

    Like taking their helmet off on a alien planet. Touching shit. All that dumb stuff.

    They act like dumb Americans.

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    edit-2
    9 days ago

    In Alien they are naive and panicked but also actively sabotaged by Ash. And it isn’t a ship full of dedicated explorers or scientists.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      9 days ago

      Yeh. They’re space truckers. One of hteir guys is sick and needs help. They don’t care about some OSHA bullshit enforced by a regulatory commission thirty lights away, they want to help Kain regardless of what Ripley says. It makes sense in the context of the characters and their knowledge and motivations.

  • Vent
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    9 days ago

    Isn’t it a requirement in any Alien movie that only a single person on the entire crew isn’d dumb as a rock?

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      9 days ago

      Alien and Aliens very much averted this. the characters behaved in a believable manner given their background and the knowledge available to them.

      • blobjim [he/him]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        9 days ago

        All the characters in Alien are so likeable too. It feels rare that there’s ever a story now where a character isn’t annoying to their colleages or unlikeable beyond repair.

        • AndJusticeForAll [none/use name]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          8 days ago

          I wonder if it’s American moralism that they feel like they have to have the characters who get killed be unlikable so moralist normies are OK with them all dying. The 2000s especially felt like every movie was just a group of either awful people or at least aesthetically displeasing people. Elevated horror side-steps but doesn’t really address this by taking an ambiguous stance on whether you’re supposed to sympathize with or just gawk at the alien main characters who talk sparsely and slowly about their trauma over the course of the film while everyone else around them dies.

  • I’m with you on their stupidity and correct me if I am wrong… but weren’t they basically like the vanguard of an interplanetary settlement project?

    therefore, basically the scientists without good critical analysis skills and a prediction for tunnel vision that makes them best suited for “getting the job done” and not getting “bogged down” with “risk assessments” and safety/security protocols.

    that’s sort of how I remember it, which may be conflated with my own experiences of working alongside similarly smooth brained “scientists”.

    • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      8 days ago

      Kinda, but they had a planet they had already surveyed and took a detour because a preliminary scan of a closer planet suggested it may be a nicer colony spot. Which okay, but I assume your ship has the ability to do some from orbit research on the surface, and maybe send like a droid down first? There’s a huge ass empty alien city on the surface, I’m 100% even modern satellites could detect that. That alone would suggest there’s something concerning on this planets surface.

      Idk just seemed like a foolish move coming from a group that’s been training for space exploration.