• halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Supporting oil and fracking isn’t even in the same ballpark as wanting to deregulate and eliminate the EPA entirely.

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        2 months ago

        But they ARE in the same ballpark tho.

        I don’t see the vast difference you do.

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          2 months ago

          The news cycles manufacture* polarization so people think there is a huge difference between both parties, and there really isn’t. We’ve gone so far right, that right is considered left, and anyone alive who’s been paying attention and speaks on it is accused of being too old/bot/shill/foreign propagandists du jour.

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                2 months ago

                I’m a big fan of two different but similar thoughts.

                When a person tells you who/what they are, believe them

                And

                I judge things based on what they output, not by rhetoric said at the beginning. Intentions are great but y’all get no points for em. All I care about are results.

                Neoliberalism, as it plays out, is corporatism. There’s a revolving door between industry and Congress. Citizens United. Legalized bribery/lobbying. No one or thing has benefitted more from the last 43 years than the corporation.

                Mussolini, the first fascist, the guy who started it all came up with the word, commissioned a giant big brother face on the outside of his building (for real yo, that shit is terrifying), summarily defined fascism as the merger of the corporation and the state. Indeed, if you open the history books, his entire government was made up of industry leaders. It might be the closest we’ve come to technocracy actually.

                I can only conclude that neoliberalism is fascism-lite and I feel I’m being generous there. Corporations are set up with authoritarian framework complete with the cult of personality worship of the CEO who’s above reproach/questioning/the law. There is not one thing democratic about it, which should terrify you, when you couple that thought with the fact that corporations are hell bent on monopoly at any cost. Any. Cost.

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                  Oh honey! You’re preaching to the choir, here, because I wholly agree and yeah, I’ve mentioned that about Mussolini, here, but a lot of users had a fit of pique over it. And I’m just beginning to learn, myself, despite having watched it since Nixon.

                  Thanks for typing all that out, though, I look forward to learning from and maybe with you!