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      Well actually several Dem congressmen vote for stuff we don’t like therefore all Dems are as bad as Repubs and therefore they are worse than Repubs.

      My sources are lemmy.ml and hexbear.

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      That would require them being capable of critical thinking, and anyone willing to vote third party clearly lacks in that department.

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        Critical thinking would lead you to vote third party.

        What they lack is a specific piece of electoral information about first past the post voting: https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo

        Combine the understanding that america–deeply unfortunately–uses first past the post voting with critical thinking, and it’s obvious third parties are, for now, a waste.

        But if you wrongly accuse them of not having critical thinking skills, they’ll use their critical thinking skills, which they have, to assume that you are not a good source of information, even though you’re encouraging them in the right direction.

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          No. Critical thinking skills preclude even entertaining the notion of voting third party, because critical thinking skills would lead one to comprehend how FPTP and the EC work, and realize the all-but-guaranteed mathematical impossibility of electing a third party president.

          Anyone who proudly proclaims to vote third party is one of the following, without exception:

          • an uninformed idealist, aka a useful idiot
          • a bad actor
          • an entitled jackass with zero disregard for the effects of their actions

          In any of these cases, I wouldn’t trust these people with a butter knife let alone a ballot. But that’s not my call, so I call them out for what they are.

          E: forgot a word

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          Sure, but we all give them that specific piece of electoral information in nearly every thread.

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      The people who claim that are campaigning for trump.

      Some because they like him. Some because they are accelerationist motherfuckers that want to see the world burn. Some because they are useful idiots.

      But they are all spreading lies in service of Trump.

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      Last time I checked on those people they claimed Trump would be completely pro Palestinian and everyone who didn’t see this true true was stupid. Didn’t know they jumped right to jUsT As BaD.

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        No one claimed Trump would be better for Palestine, we’ve said Harris and Biden is as bad as Trump would be.

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            So we should completely ignore what’s going on by something that he has said. If we’re holding people accountable by what they’ve said, should we not also be holding Harris accountable by saying that she once supported livable wages and universal health care?

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          Ohh, well here is a perfect example of him being worse.

          Biden/Harris still “just as bad?”

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              So it’s your honest belief that Trump will just literally, not “defacto,” ban Palestinian refugees and go no further?

              The man who said he would illegally exile American Palestinian supporters? The man whose only comment directly on the genocide is that Israel needs to "finish the problem?"

              You think the half cocked, more extreme person who has already called for more brutality to Palestine and Americans who support Palenstine, who is clearly playing politics by not stating his exact concept of a plan for Palestine, is the better answer here?

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                They saw the rhetoric against Haitians in Ohio and were delighted. There’s no point in attempting to reason with them, unless it is fun.

                There are only three kinds of lemmy.ml denizens. The first are MAGA and want Donald to start pogroms in the US. The second are “leftists” who love state capitalism like China or straight-up oligarchical kleptocracy Russia, they want the US to fail so China-style authoritarianism can spread. The third signed up for the wrong instance and will eventually leave when they find out the admins are deathly frightened of facts.

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                They’re both going to be shit to Palestine because they’re both owned by Zionists. And with an amount of money and weapons that the US is providing to Netanyahu, they are allowing him to finish the problem.

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      Exactly. Meanwhile privileged ass college kids talking about voting for this guy because Biden wasn’t being a baby. Fucking idiots.

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      Basically his ideas are automatically the good ideas, and since Harris isn’t gonna do the exact same thing as him that means she’ll be bad. Same logic in saying she’ll be bad for Israel, the southern border, etc.