• zephorah
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    2 days ago

    Yea but where? There’s a push for it in my state. Drove past a new area that will be a neighborhood of cookie cutter SFH, probably with driveways too short to contain full size vehicles. And they’ll cost more than half a million so I’m not sure how that’s affordable. Anyway. It’s being built on the flood plain. 8/10 flood factor.

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      We really need more high density housing closer to urban centers, but Americans seem to be allergic to it. Everyone wants their single family house. Also too, without subsidies they’re is no profit incentive for developers to build the necessary housing stock, they all shoot for “luxury” housing because it’s the most profitable.

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        without subsidies they’re is no profit incentive for developers to build the necessary housing stock

        So cap rent. If a developer wants to build, they need to build what people actually need. You don’t need to hand them boatloads of money to make affordable housing more profitable than non-affordable housing, just ban the unaffordable housing nobody needs.

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        If only we made a school for teaching people how to do the things we need most. It could be run by the government as a nonprofit. We could incorporate medical and all the other industries we are getting gouged by.

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          I mean, public state universities could fulfill this role if they could get past their admin rot

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        They did that too. Remember the townhouse apartment? Each unit has an up and a downstairs, sometimes with garages, 4 or so units to a building? They built a lot of those, tightly packed, but they’re not rentals. They’re condo/houses being sold for $550k, same as the SFH home development across the street.

        I feel like each area picks their price and every livable, buyable space is the same price.

        Notice how you cannot buy a backyard shed with a doors and windows for a reasonable price any more? It’s likely because houseless relatives were getting set up in those as renovated backyard ADUs.

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          Sure, but they were still proportionally cheaper the SFHs, as were condos, but the overall median price is through the roof. I also seem to remember some statistic that upwards of 20% of housing stock sits vacant for some ass backwards tax purpose, though I couldn’t quote that article right now. I dunno, perhaps we need more at the legislative level.

          And per your shed comment, the price of those skyrocketed when building materials went bananas and demand during covid outpaced supply as everyone was stuck at home and had nothing better to do than house renovation projects. They never came back down because retail outlets and suppliers are greedy dicks. But I don’t think demand for them as a living accomodations was a catalyst, though I could be wrong.

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        I’ve always wanted like… A townhome. But the problem is anything like that (even away from city/population centers but still near enough to commute is astronomically expensive.

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        Also, you’re right. Here’s the reality though. The absolute worst sounds at the end of a work day are the sounds of other people. Give me a train, traffic, coyotes, anything but the sound of other people. Especially, and this is the sound of one of the rings of Hell, the sounds of other peoples children. It’s like a Scotch brite pad being rubbed across your mental health.

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          Well that’s why people choose city living vs suburban vs rural. I live in the mountains because I absolutely do not want to be around that many people even going about my day to day. That said, the noise problem can be mitigated with extra insulation, but then you get into the luxury segment I was talking about.

          It seems like there are a number of solutions out there, but no one cares enough to do anything. So that’s why I live in my sky top island.