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Go ahead then. Explain the difference without making shit up.
I guess the Israeli far right preferred Trump for no reason.
Why wouldn’t they? You made yourself fascists by chasing him but that doesn’t change the fact that he was there before you. Of course they prefer him. Just like the American fascist voters you failed to swing.
Being a loser doesn’t absolve you.
Notice how you didn’t actually give a reason?
One mostly exports the genocide to the third world
The other wants to bring it home.
Go ahead then. Explain the difference without making shit up.
Task: Failed
Now, now. They made a distinction. It was just between the value of white lives and brown lives.
Of course, ignore all the rhetoric of trump and is ilk so you can call the other guy racist. That certainly seals the argument
Please take a step back, take a few breaths, and try to be coherent to the context you’re replying.
If I were you I would either recant my position or be VERY offended that I was accused with merit of being a white supremacist. You singled out as a distinction that the bad things would happen here. To people like you. Fairly explicit that should mean something more than the lives that aren’t yours.
This is definitional chauvinism.
Wanna take another crack at replying now?
What is there to be more coherent about? You boiled down that guy’s response to be about skin color
whatever. best of luck palestinians who are still in existence in this moment.
I don’t get it. Are you happy Trump won, or…?
No, but I’m still disgusted by the amount of gaslighting we got for the last 8 months. All Harris had to do was make a plan to end the war, but she… didn’t. And some liberals want to call it our (people who didn’t vote for her) fault.
More Palestinians will die under Trump. More Americans will suffer under Trump. More people around the world will suffer with a Trump presidency. But at least you showed the democrats…
Literally does not matter. They’re all demons, and they all maximise the suffering they inflict. If someone knew how to create more suffering, they’d share their secrets with the rest.
What will trump do to cause more Palestinian deaths?
What COULD he do?Israel is already getting everything they wanted, and facing zero consequences or obstacles.
I don’t disagree with you wrt American deaths, but that’s not what this post is about
For my part, I’m not sure it is, though lack of votes didn’t help. The meme is perhaps meanspirited so soon after the painful news, but here’s my question, and this is genuine: now what?
Trump will get to pick a bunch of lower federal judges and probably two more SCOTUS judges. What’s the way out when it seems to me that he and his jackals control the military, the police, and the judiciary? Seems like a hopeless setup to me.
Harris lost, so what’s Step 2?
Step 2 is support third parties
I appreciate your answers, but I still don’t follow the logic. Thanks anyway.
and then they continue to get <5% and trump gets another term… then what?
So, it was worth Trump getting a second term in order for you to maintain your moral purity?
Listen, fuck Harris and every other Dem who failed to condemn the war in Gaza, they all deserve to burn in hell for that.
But did you really get what you wanted out of this?
Exactly. It was a douche and a turd sandwich. Refusing to vote because “they’re a turd sandwich” is simply saying “I’m okay with the douche”. It’s a 2 party system. There are no good candidates. Only one that’s marginally better than the other. Not voting is tacitly voting for the worst one.
anyone that did not vote kamala is now in part responsible for the inevitable increased suffering that will occur in palestine, lebanon, iran, and ukraine
it really is that simple
Not a USAmerican, but by that logic:
Are Kamala, her party and her supporters who couldn’t get those people to vote for Kamala also responsible for the increased suffering?Are they responsible for the people not being convinced that the suffering would be lesser under Kamala?
Did Kamala and party show significant effort and good faith to woo those people?
Or was it the 99% Hitler vs 100% Hitler thing? Asking since most online discourse I saw on it here in lemmy was like that, where they’re saying Trump would be worse, instead of saying that Kamala would be better, de-escalate stuff etc.Increased suffering?
How can their suffering be increased more than it is now?Israel is already getting everything could have ever wished for. There is nothing trump could do to make that worse.
There were other reasons to vote for Harris, but this wasn’t one.
How did you think this election was gonna go? You think there was still gonna be enough votes for Harris? Or that by some miracle a 3rd party candidate was gonna be elected?
People with your mindset are just as guilty as the dems are. No weasling out of this shitpile were now stuck in
It is your fault.
I’m surprised to see an antinatalist support Harris. Seems morally inconsistent, though perhaps not from a consequentialist perspective. I’ve been blocking everyone sharing your sentiment, but I don’t wanna block one of the few antinatalists here, so I’m commenting instead
Is Harris’ loss my fault because I voted for De La Cruz? She could have easily earned my vote, but tried to court centrists and conservative voters instead.
Being an accelerationist makes even more your fault. It is bullshit the primary was skipped, but no progressives even tried to run there so you would have a similar choice.
Happy that Holocaust Harris ate shit
