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Even if Mastodon and other Fediverse platform gains are 1% of the gains of BlueSky or anything else, it’s still cause for celebration and to welcome new friendly faces with open arms.
When the Reddit API-calypse happened, I don’t think anyone expected Lemmy to have more users than Reddit or anywhere even close to a similar number. But Lemmy.ca went from around 40 active users in April 2023 to hundreds, and then to 2k over 3 months, most people being friendly and ready for something different.
Quantity isn’t everything. There is an innumerable amount of things that could be better about Mastodon, Lemmy and other Fediverse software and sure, mass-adoption could help with niche content. However the way the Fediverse is set up, it is resistant to all the sacrifices other platforms had to make in the long run to be more profitable. Musk-boi could “buy” Mastodon, Spez could “buy” Lemmy.world and ml, and Zucker-bot could “buy” Pixelfed tomorrow, but that wouldn’t stop anyone from forking those platforms and leaving the main instances. The distributed nature makes it hard for a monopolist to capture.
Musk-boi could “buy” Mastodon, Spez could buy Lemmy.world and ml, and Zucker-bot could “buy” Pixelfed tomorrow, but that wouldn’t stop anyone from forking those platforms and leaving the main instances.
Or going someplace in the Fediverse that’s neither Mastodon nor Lemmy nor Pixelfed.
I thought the name x was stupid, but now I love the idea of eXodus. If I were starting a site, that’s what I would call it.
I’m a bit late on this one, why’s there been another exodus?
X is full of white supremacists.
From Wikipedia:
In November 2024, following Donald Trump’s victory in the 2024 United States presidential election and Elon Musk’s nomination as a co-executive of the proposed Department of Government Efficiency, Bluesky experienced a surge in new user registrations as people migrated from other social platforms, particularly Twitter. Many came from the United States, United Kingdom (where Bluesky had previously seen growth during the 2024 UK riots following Musk’s commentary), and Canada. The social app added over 4 million registered users in that week, becoming the most popular app in the US App Store and Play Store.
"…and does not depend on venture capital to survive,” wrote Rochko, subtly jabbing at one of Bluesky’s potential weaknesses with that last bit.
it wasn’t a subtle jab, it’s the primary reason everything else has gone to shit. it is the MAIN selling point of the fediverse.
Bluesky plans to generate revenue via subscriptions at some later point and by providing other paid services, like access to custom domains.
This looks like a very important point. I doubt we’ll see true federation with “access to custom domains”.
Its so blatantly obvious that bluesky is already looking for ways to make profit. The enshittification cycles are getting shorter and shorter. Soon they will try to travel back in time to create even more shit.
From what I can gather, they aren’t selling the ability to link custom domains as your user handle. They are acting as a domain registrar to allow users to buy domains and link them to their handle in one step, then likely skimming some profits off the top. Imagine they sell a “custom username with domain” for $20 per year, they pay the wholesale fee (around $9 for a .com) and pocket the rest. That seems perfectly reasonable to me.
it is the MAIN selling point of the fediverse.
Debatable, I would say it’s the ability to selfhost and not be under the mercy of “the platform” or the admin’s subjective morals, you can also not federate and make the place your own
do you think any of that could happen if it was beholden to capital?
Not necessarily, it all depends on the software license, people don’t usually care about who funds their software, ( even if they’re funding it themselves with their data ), plus If we’re talking about selling points, saying that you can control your online presence is a much successful sell than saying it’s not VC funded, like I never used that argument when I try to convince my friends to hop on Mastodon
Edit: but I’m not saying it’s not a valid argument, it’s very valid
I wouldn’t say it’s the main selling point. Because if it is, there is no selling point.
The fediverse is a series of social networks. Social networks rely on being SOCIAL. So in order to have a healthy social network you need a large number of people. The more people, the better the platform. It’s that easy.
The current audience for Lemmy/Fediverse is a niche group. This group highly prefers linux. It cares (and knows about) federation. It cares about adblocking. It highly prefers political discussions. It cares about privacy.
As for the majority of the country? They don’t give a shit. About any of that. At all.
Linux is a platform that if you based user numbers on features, it SHOULD be the number one operating system. It’s not. It’s not even close. I’ll put it this way. The Dallas Cowboys play in a stadium that can fill 100,000 people. If you filled a sellout crowd for an event, the ticketing ushers would outnumber the linux users in that building.
And the reason for this, is the average American does not give one shit if something has enshitification. Or even notice enshitification. That’s the reason products keep shrinkings, ads keep appearing. If people stopped using the products, they would stop doing that. It’s only profitable because people don’t care.
So if the major selling point is “we don’t have corporate enshitification”, and the majority of people don’t even know what that means, then it’s not a selling point is it?
The current audience for Lemmy/Fediverse is a niche group.
A niche group who is here because capital destroyed other platforms we loved.
I don’t think my statement is untrue but I also don’t think it will remain true for much longer for exactly the reasons you put forward.
edit: @LEVI@feddit.org
I think I saw two or three “exodus from Twitter”, every time most of the users go back after two weeks or so.
Most definitely go back, but some stay, and those who do stay, cause a growth over time. The activity stays somewhat elevated and never goes back to exactly where it was. It’s always just a little bit higher.
Kind of like Elvis’s colon. He expelled MOST of the fecies everyday, but some stayed permanently, until he died on the toilet with 25lbs of fecies inside him that never came out.
I guess in this example, I’m saying that people are shit
