Source for thinking the degrowth crowd thinks this: Introduction to “The Future is Degrowth”. Does the degrowth crowd really think they can get rid of capitalism without any violence? This seems to have the opposite of a historical precedent, and is a deviation in Marxism, which they seem to heavily draw from. Anytime revolutionaries took the peaceful road they got outcompeted at best and massacred at worst.
Regular degrowthers are liberals so yeah they are idealistic.
What grinds my gears is that they try to force us global south nations to also abandon fossil fuels while they conveniently make profit off selling the green energy infrastructure to us. Fuck em there can not be degrowth without a extractivist phase, they are the ones that should take that burden first not us and not only that but to also pay off their climate debt to us.
Degrowth isn’t a serious ideology. It’s just cope for people who believe that capitalism will bring about the apocalypse. The work of changing the world is reserved for those dedicated to living, not those waiting to die.
For a quite long, I shared the views of degrowthers, and it is really depressing world with no realistic solutions.
Everytime i see the degrowth discussion out in the liberal internet wilds it tends to draw in thinly veiled ecofash or/and the magical hand of anarchism types.
What exactly is degrowth? Like technological regression or something?
I support degrowth, but only after the revolution. Any degrowth within capitalism is just going to be austerity.
I don’t think degrowth is the answer, but it depends on your definition of degrowth. Growth using green technology and renewable energy backed by socialist economic planning should be the solution.
My degrowth position is basically: you can’t have infinite growth on a finite planet. We use way more resources than we actually have. Under socialism we can make far fewer products, but make them higher quality, so fewer resources are wasted. We also need a circular and library economy where things are used as much and by as many people as possible within a closed system rather than producing things for profit.
Really I can’t wait to see what a modern, technologically advanced socialist economy comes up with in the field of technology. Just hope we live to see it
