I have been trying to take my digital privacy more seriously as of late, but I find myself falling into a cycle of all-or-nothing. I will do a little bit to improve my privacy and then will suddenly feel like I need to go full-on down the rabbit hole. This leads to burnout, and then I’ll convince myself that it’s all futile and I should just use what’s most convenient.

How do you all find a balance that works for you? Or do you just change things constantly?

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    Set a realistic threat level that meets your balance of privacy/convienience and stick to it. I know it is easier said than done, but once you start to get used to it, then you can think about making slight adjustments to better your privacy here and there. If you try to go full privacy right off the bat, you are going to get frustrated.

    Start with changing 1-2 things at a time and go from there. Perhaps just change your browser/settings and your email. Adjust from there after a few months

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      Creating a threat model is probably a good idea. Having something to reference when making decisions would really help with the way my brain works. Thanks for the suggestions!

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    Do what you can. I use WhatsApp even though I despise it…why because I need to for elderly family and friends. I have signal also and will opt for that and use that where possible. Its a marathon not a sprint. If you need to use fb or instagram use the website with ublock for example.

    Of course you can avoid them too but its not always realistic. Like some bank apps won’t work without google play services for example. So make up a bullshit google account and use that. Then use your real email in k-9 mail for example.

    Need to sign up for something use aliases such as mozmail duck.com or simplelogin.

    Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. We are social creatures by nature.

    Using Linux with Firefox and ublock for example is a great start. Then work on limiting stuff you don’t want out there, closing old accounts. Using a password manager for example keepass xc. Signal if you can.

    I didn’t have a reddit profile but I made one here as I’m ok with sharing stuff here on my terms. There is no trackers or corporation or nasty ads.

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    Accept that privacy is important, but being able to live normally is more important. That means if you have to choose between the two, you compromise and do the not-really-privacy-friendly thing.

    A common example might be WhatsApp. Depening on where you live and your circle of friends, not having it has serious real-world consequences - social exclusion, missing out on important information. If that’s your situation, you get it. You can still use Signal with any contact that has it and ask “do you have Signal instead” if someone offers you their WhatsApp contact and explain why you prefer it, but absolutism doesn’t work.

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    How do you all find a balance that works for you? Or do you just change things constantly?

    Honestly, for me it’s a hobby to see how far I can take it while also having all the ease of modern life, and my partner supports that but doesn’t follow it all himself. It takes some time researching and setting stuff up, but after that you cán have most modern ease and fancy things. As it’s a hobby for me, I never felt burned out by it.

    That being said, if it’s not your hobby I can totally understand it feels like a rabbithole and becomes a bit much. Just remember that everything you do is better than nothing. If it’s getting too much, take a halt, and take satisfaction in what you did already do instead of worrying about all that you didn’t. Every step taken is one, they all count.

    There is always more you cán do. Everything is hackable, if not technically then by social hacking. Nothing is 100% safe. In the end, there is always a risk somewhere. If that risk is likely, is a different question. So just look at what is worth it for you, how far yóu want to take it. Understand that understanding the risks doesn’t mean you have to block it. It just means you can do a proper assessment about if something needs to be done about it or not. Sometimes, it’s ok to say the risk is acceptable. It depends on your situation really.

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    Honestly it’s easy to turn good privacy hygiene into an unhealthy obsession and it can strain your relationships with friends and family. You have to be aware that things are going to change constantly and that’s ok. Your probably not using internet explorer anymore and you’re happier without it so switching to the new mullvad browser is no big deal. Your friends probably use Snapchat and WhatsApp but i bet a more of them are on signal than you think. It used to be enough to not give your phone number to websites and not have your name in your email address but threats have evolved and so have our protection tools. You are probably not on the run or in witness protection so a small leak with your info isn’t life threatening just take a deep breath and keep trying to make good choices.

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    The most important thing in all these things is to actually consider what you need, and what your’re willing to pay for it. The Internet is both extremely good and telling you about niche but really really good sorts of things, while really really bad at not making perfect the enemy of the good.

    So, as an example - look up any product category. The highly advertised options are rarely the absolute best option, but the absolute best option is often like getting sold on a McClaren when you need a Toyota. Or an F350 when you really need Ranger.

    So - in privacy, often the online people are talking about avoiding government “Enemy of the State” type surveillance and risks (look up the movie if you don’t get the reference). And that level of opsec and precautions are going to do the job, but at a huge cost in practicality and connection with the rest of the world. Now, are you going up against a government? If not, you have to figure what you are going against, @RandomDude said - do a threat assessment.

    I will say one thing - I won’t publicly disclose my own threat assessment for several reasons, but I’m sure online there are some examples you can look up. Are you looking to weaken Google / Ad tracking? Are you looking to not send all data to your ISP for marketing? etc. And there are reasonable things you can do there.

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    Not sure I have much of a solution, but if it makes you feel better you’re not alone. I do the same thing. Right now I’m back on an “improving my privacy” kick, but I to tend to get burned out and get more lax.

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      Thanks. Honestly knowing I’m not the only one is very helpful in a way haha. It’s easier not to get hyper focused knowing there’s more of us just trying to figure this stuff out.

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    I tend to have tiers to things, some things stay with me, some are an indifferent as to if anyone sees, very few are actively promoted as public things. There’s also the notion that anything written that leaves your local system is no longer your’s to control so consider the future when posting. Beyond that, I acknowledge that I will never be able to fully squash the marketing/data-aggregation machine that is the internet but if I can muddy the picture that’s good enough. Self hosting as many services as possible helps give a level of assurance because I know exactly where my data resides.

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    I fell into the same trap, and had to start learning compromise, as well as when I needed to put a specific topic on the back burner to simmer a little bit.

    Some projects went swimmingly. I migrated all services off Google (email, cloud, domains) and onto privacy conscious hosts in countries with better privacy laws. I started religiously using 2FA and a open source password vault. I got most of my easily obtained public info scrubbed from the internet.

    Other things not so much. I just couldn’t find an easy or satisfactory way to relinquish my carrier cell phone number for more anonymous VoIP services. My credit card companies no doubt track my every purchase and move. My friends refuse to stop using messengers that mine their data.

    The moral of my long winded account above is: do what you can, it still makes a difference. And let yourself feel accomplished by it, because most people can’t or won’t do shit to protect themselves.

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    So many great comments here, from thinking people who often struggle with the same thing. I have my own story with its ups and downs.

    My view of privacy these days for the most part is of owning my data. If my information is on my own server/devices and off the cloud then I have it private for the most part.

    This can sound contradictory at times, for example: Signal is not private to me because my chats and data is still only available through their app and only their app, and a plain text file ilcan be more private if only stored locally. For the most part though, this model works and allows me to think id something is intended to be private or public.

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      Yeah, I’ve been interested in going that route, but man have I become dependent on cloud services haha. Also, self-hosting email might be a bit much for me haha. Thanks for the thoughts, and best of luck on your journey!

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    dont worry about the all or nothing mindset because it is all right in the end to be as private as your threat model needs to be, no need to go 100% or 0% with something like this

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    What I do is change to more private stuff slowly so I focus on changing one thing at a time and sticking with it and see if it become normal for me to use that instead.

    For example cause Reddit to Lemmy is the current change I’m working right now so I’ll stick with it for a month and see if it becomes normal for me to return here.

    Weather I end up replacing Reddit with Lemmy or not once I’ve decided I don’t immediately try to change something else, give myself a little break before trying to change something else.

    Basically you don’t have to rush to be private cause any change that sticks is a good thing no matter how long it takes.