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    Ok, so you would put half of the GOP in prison? Good luck with that. I also want a million bucks and a harem of curly hair dark girls.

    It’s only a matter of time before the GOP wins another presidency. It’s probably going to happen next year.

    What then? Do you trust Trump with the ability to define what is and isn’t valid speech?

    ^^ please answer this don’t ignore it for the 4th time

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        Says the person calling for the left to be able to silence anyone that they disagree with and make laws to try and prevent them from being able to have those opinions. How very fascist of you.

        It’s amazing how the people calling everyone else fascists have some of the most fascist views of everyone. Fascists love censorship and banning dissenting views. You’re literally begging for that while calling the people that dont want to do that fascists lol.

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                No, anyone who cries for censorship and banning of opposing opinions is a fascist, or at least showing fascist behaviour. This isn’t hard to understand. Fascists don’t like differing opinions. They want them banned. They want people that hold them to be silenced. Sound familiar?

                Also I’m not american, and I’m the one thats arguing against authoritarian rule. You’re the one asking for authoritarian rule, with the government deciding what can and can’t be said.

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                    No one is normalising white supremacy though. It will always exist. Letting the government legislate censoring speech based on what they deem “hate speech” is a slippery slope and is fascist. What happens when the party you hate wins power and now everything you say is declared hate speech? You don’t even see how you are spreading fascist ideology yourself lol.

                    Everyone has the right to free speech. No one should be censored or imprisoned for their opinions no matter how heinous they are. As an example - I think it’s disgusting that there are certain groups of the alphabet group that are now pushing for the acceptance of the term “minor attracted people” and attempting to make it different from being a pedophile - but I absolutely believe they have the right to voice those opinions and would never say they should be censored or silenced.

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        Ok, so you admit you don’t trust Trump with the ability to define what is and isn’t valid speech. So now we have a contradiction here.

        Either a) the government CAN define what is and isn’t valid speech or b) the people deserve freedom of speech

        You can only pick one. Can’t just say “no freedom of speech but nobody bad will ever take power in a democracy”

        Because you know what happens in democracies? Eventually bad people come to power. It’s always happened. In Rome. In Athens. In Germany.

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            Bad people come to power because good people REFUSE to acknowlege evil when it is in front of them. Good people actually think they can redewm evil by being nice to it.

            You don’t understand what happens in these countries. It’s fear and instability. Someone comes along and offers a problem to fix it. Don’t worry, you lost all your jobs because of China and the immigrants. I will fix it. Build a wall. etc

            It only works because people are scared and insecure. You fix that, you fix the fascists. Nothing else will fix the fascists. Literally, you can do everything in the world. Won’t go away.

            this is life under socialism!

            do i look like i have a don’t tread on me tattooed on my forehead? I believe we need to have mass government actions in order to provide housing, healthcare, college, internet, power, water, etc. I think all of those things should be free. I’m not a free market capitalist

            I just can see further than the front of my nose and realize that banning speech is asking for a one-way ticket to 1984

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              How do we fix the insecurities of alt right white supremacists who spend their free time getting off on antagonizing people for the sake of upsetting someone?

              Some of them even want someone to try and fix them so they can use that for their own personal entertainment.

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                It’s not those men you really need to fix. It’s the people who initially voted for Trump. Rust belt, blue collar, white anerican, etc.

                These people had essentially been abandoned and Trump took them up as their hero.

                If the economy was booming in the Rust belt, they would have never gotten Trump elected in the first place.

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                    Nearly half of the country views Trump positively. If all of those fall into your definition of “alt-righters” then yes. But I see the alt-right as different than most moderate Republicans.

                    Ie business owners who are cool with gays, aren’t overtly racist, support abortion, etc and supported Trump for tax reasons.