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A high-speed, high-risk police chase over a nothing violation like this is an obscenity. I will never understand why people are willing to put up with it — why police aren’t fired, prosecuted, and jailed.

  • xkforce@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Most of these posts I agree are examples of cops being utter garbage but this is a bad take on what happened in this particular case op. This has a “look what the cops made them do” vibe to it.

    • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      Cops are supposed to de-escalate. Supposed to have some common sense.

      Why bother to chase someone over a traffic ticket?

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        The only justification for that (idiotic) philosophy was that you could just mail the ticket to the owner of record. But here, the car was reported stolen. They didn’t have the driver’s ID. Can’t exactly send the thief’s ticket to the owner of the car.

        I wonder how many lives have been saved by cops shooting fleeing felons. This kid would have been one of them.

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          Okay, but now the situation is infinitely worse than if they simply let him go.

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            So, he drives off at high speed, police stop their pursuit. He eventually ditches the car and escapes because there is nobody around to arrest him.

            What stops him from doing the same thing tomorrow? The next day? What stops him from telling his criminal buddies how he got away? What stops them from doing the same thing?

            How many 5-year-olds are going to be hit in all the high-speed escapes that the criminals adopt when they realize the cops won’t pursue?

            You haven’t thought this through.

            • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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              Police solve less than half of violent crimes and less than 25 percent of theft.

              So their poor results get slightly more poor, but that kid would still be alive? Bet.

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                Pull your head out of your ass. This one thief is going to keep stealing cars, keep fleeing at high speed. He’s not going to put this kid at risk once. He’s going to do it dozens of times. And now, with no cops near him when he does kill that kid, he’s going to escape and do it some more.

                You’re not saving this kid. You’re killing more.

                • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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                  1 year ago

                  So get him on the next one without a chase, or sell the police tank and invest in drones. Cops speeding around like maniacs isn’t the answer. I can see that even with my head up my ass that there must be a smarter way.

                  Do better, is all I’m saying.

        • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOP
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          If the article is accurate (always a sizable ‘if’) “a trooper tried to conduct a traffic stop.” They didn’t yet know the car was stolen.

          But that’s moot to me. If they had known the car was stolen, that still wouldn’t merit the risk of chasing the perp all across Oldham County.

          • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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            If the car was reported stolen, the plate would be tagged in their plate reader system. He’d know it was stolen before he flipped on the lights.

            If we aren’t going to have police stop car thieves, why do we even have police?

            • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOP
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              Is a stolen car worth what happened here? Is it worth even the risk of what happened here? My answer is no and no.

              • Neuromancer
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                The risk seems to be growing for accidents. I use to have no issue with chases but more and more they are ending in disaster.

                Since many new cars have a gps. Why chase? We just need to open that up to cops when the car is stolen. They could then just wait till it’s stopped to make the arrest.

                I use to be more tolerant of chases but not anymore. The risk isn’t worth the reward.

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                  Setting the precedent that criminals merely need to do dangerous shit to avoid all consequences for their crimes will produce for worse outcomes.

                  Chase them harder, stop them faster. The most I would be willing to compromise is statutory leniency for immediate compliance.

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                Apparently the driver thought it was. Thats why they fled over in your own words, a nothing traffic ticket. They chose to drive in a dangerous manner that caused a fatal accident because they calculated that it was worth the risk to get away.

                • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOP
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                  Do you believe the driver would’ve driven as fast, as dangerously, and had the same fatal wreck had he not been pursued by police?

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                There is nothing wrong with your answers. The problem is your asinine questions.

                Setting the precedent that criminals just need to do dangerous shit to successfully evade all consequences will have far worse outcomes than anything that happened here.

        • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOP
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          1 year ago

          Rule 2 reminder: If you’re here to support the police, you’re trolling. Please exercise your right to remain silent.

          • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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            There are plenty enough examples of actual bad cops without having to resort to this bullshit.

            • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldOP
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              Rule 2: If you’re here to support the police, you’re trolling. Please exercise your right to remain silent.

              Banned. User seems to be gone anyway, but the reports keep coming in.

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    A high-speed, high-risk police chase over a nothing violation like this is an obscenity. I will never understand why people are willing to put up with it — why police aren’t fired, prosecuted, and jailed.

    Are you out of your buttfucking mind?