But that’s not what OP said. OP Made a stupid claim about how only visiting Berlin means one hasn’t really visited Germany.
To your point, my analogy works quite well - If you go to NYC expecting to find the stereotype of cowboys, massive steaks, and barbeque, you’ll be disappointed, because that shit is in Texas.
It’s all relative to how one defines a country’s culture and the lens it creates. Just because someone has myopic expectations does not mean that NYC is less American than anywhere else in the US. The same holds true for Berlin and the rest of Germany.
As much as it pains me to say, coming from Hamburg, but Berlin is way more German than Bavaria.
Don’t be confused by Berlin being a metropolis and therefore different, it’s the same in Hamburg. Just without the suck but that’s because Berlin is Prussian.
Nah Bavaria is actually kind of quaint, same as the rest of Austria. Not bad to visit, would never stay (and the natives like it that way). Berlin is a teenager trying to look cool.
No, I fully understand the point. By “German” you mean Fachwerkhäuser, Oktoberfest, Lederhosen and Dirndls, Bier Steins and Weißwurst, and you’re correct, these cultural symbols are not characteristic of Berlin - these are Bavarian. There is so much more to German culture than Bavaria though, despite what the Bavarians think.
Only that Berlin is probably the “least German” place to go, while NY is not.
But that’s not what OP said. OP Made a stupid claim about how only visiting Berlin means one hasn’t really visited Germany.
To your point, my analogy works quite well - If you go to NYC expecting to find the stereotype of cowboys, massive steaks, and barbeque, you’ll be disappointed, because that shit is in Texas.
It’s all relative to how one defines a country’s culture and the lens it creates. Just because someone has myopic expectations does not mean that NYC is less American than anywhere else in the US. The same holds true for Berlin and the rest of Germany.
I think you’re missing the point. NYC doesn’t have cowboys or anything but it’s representative of other aspects of American culture.
Berlin is in fact the least German town in Germany. It has its own kind of culture that is vastly different from the rest.
Berlin is just as German as NYC is American, both have big city cultures that don’t really fit with life outside them.
Lived in NY for a while (manhattan) and travelled to a lot of other states. The comparison rings true for me, NY has it’s own culture for sure.
As much as it pains me to say, coming from Hamburg, but Berlin is way more German than Bavaria.
Don’t be confused by Berlin being a metropolis and therefore different, it’s the same in Hamburg. Just without the suck but that’s because Berlin is Prussian.
I think that is more a case of you disliking Bavaria, which is kind of expected from someone from Hamburg.
Imo Berlin and Hamburg are not the same. The Berlin memes are there for a reason. Same for other big cities like Köln, Hannover, Frankfurt, etc.
The way things are done in Berlin is just a bit different.
Nah Bavaria is actually kind of quaint, same as the rest of Austria. Not bad to visit, would never stay (and the natives like it that way). Berlin is a teenager trying to look cool.
No, I fully understand the point. By “German” you mean Fachwerkhäuser, Oktoberfest, Lederhosen and Dirndls, Bier Steins and Weißwurst, and you’re correct, these cultural symbols are not characteristic of Berlin - these are Bavarian. There is so much more to German culture than Bavaria though, despite what the Bavarians think.
Fachwerkhäuser are not Bavarian, it’s just that Bavaria has many old townships that kept them intact. You see them all over Germany tho.
No, I don’t.
I am German, so I know what German culture is I guess.
It’s literally the capital of your country and the seat of your government. How that “isn’t Germany” is beyond me.
Because you don’t know anything about German culture apparently.
Berlin is an extreme cultural outlier and thus not somewhere you should go to experience German culture in general.
How you don’t understand despite me trying to explain it to you multiple times is beyond me