• Nacktmull
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    TIL, Americans are so obsessed with race, they even assign certain spices to certain skin tones

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      Also it’s just an American thing, I’m in Europe but never really had anything pumpkin spice.

      I have had pumpkin soup but apparently the spice doesn’t taste like pumpkin.

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        I have had pumpkin soup but apparently the spice doesn’t taste like pumpkin.

        Pumpkin Spice is a spice mix (cinnamon, nutmeg, ginger, cloves) for pumpkin, not a spice made from pumpkin.

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        It’s not supposed to, the blend of spices is just used in pumpkin pie, thus the name

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        Not sure how is it in other European countries but I associate those particular spices with Christmas. The phrase pumpkin spice didn’t use to be a thing here but now thanks to American influence and marketing people you can buy all sorts of pumpkin spice products here. Some even sell pumpkin latte to make it even more confusing.

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      Clearly, I for one have no idea wtf is going.

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    Yes, call me basic or whatever, but you can take my seasonal pumpkin spice flavored food and beverages from my cold, dead hands!

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    Hey non-white people: do you actually not enjoy pumpkin spice? I feel like this whole thing is overblown.

    Edit: I love that this conversation is still going, no answers have been found, but also no insults have been thrown.

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      I wouldn’t even know where to get something like this. I only heard about this pumpkin spice thing on the internet

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        White guy here. I also avoid it.

        Though I don’t like sweets in general. So maybe I’m not a good example.

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            I’m in the US where most people mainly associate pumpkin with pumpkin pie. This includes the pumpkin spice which is the topic of this thread, along with plenty of cinnamon and sugar, and is usually served with whipped cream.

            I am of course aware there are many other ways to prepare or eat pumpkin, but that is my main association with this food.

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      I’m Asian. Hate Pumpkin Spice. It’s not even pumpkin. It’s nutmeg, allspice, and cloves.

      It smells nice but it tastes like dirt.

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        Huh. I agree about the debate being stupid, but judging by the responses to my (obviously flawed) study here on Lemmy it seems like there may be something to this stereotype.

        I love pumpkin pie, but anything else pumpkin spice I’m pretty meh about. It’s probably the lack of actual pumpkin.

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          I think that the whole thing about the pumpkin spice phenomenon is that it’s intrinsically tied to autumn in the US. Pumpkin pie, Halloween with pumpkins, apples, bonfires, etc. it’s all part of the season, and pumpkin spice flavoring is just one of the ways that the season in general can be experienced.

          Socially, it seems like white women, more than most other demographics in the States, are especially enthusiastic about celebrating and experiencing the various seasons (and is that really such a bad thing?), and since the autumn season has so many specific items and trends that go along with it that appeal to this demographic (picture the stereotypical white girl in the fall: PSL, fall style, at the farmers market or apple picking, family photos, etc.), it’s just the most distilled example that gets tied to a type of person.

          Other people get hyped for fall too…lots of rural American men are excited to go hunting in the fall…but camo and blaze orange with an old Stanley thermos of cheap coffee in an old truck at 4am isn’t quite as marketable as the PSL.

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            Yeah I hear ya. I don’t wanna pooh pooh on people enjoying fall, but it seems like it’s more like a marketing thing that’s been confused with a cultural thing if that makes senses…

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      I do. I think it’s quite nice and I have them somewhat regularly. They’re not overpriced where I live, they’re about the same price of a normal latte at any other cafe. So technically not overpriced, but still expensive.

      Edit: my ex-partner introduced me to it and she was a typical white woman from southern US. So there’s that.

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      Is this some usa thing? I think I qualify as white and I don’t even know wtf this is

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      Lol and I am very white and very much dislike anything pumpkin flavored so I’m the opposite. Though salted and roasted pumpkin seeds are an amazing snack

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        I’m as white as lederhosen, and I don’t want anything “pumpkin flavored.” I really enjoy actual pumpkin, I eat like four of them a year, mostly in pie format. I don’t want anything that’s been food industried to taste vaguely like pumpkin though.

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        Pumpkin or pumpkin spice? Or both? I’ve had a pumpkin pie for the first time a few years ago. Although not my favourite it’s not too bad and I’m not a fan of pumpkin at all

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      You might not know that because this “spice” only exists in the US and I just learned it myself, but pumpkin spice has nothing to do with pumpkin flavor. It’s called that way because it’s the mix of spices used in pumpkin pies: cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg, ginger and cloves.

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    Pumpkin spice lattes are the closest white people will ever come to experiencing spice on their food.

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      Maybe in the Midwest, east coast or northwest US. The south and southwest: some white people there are the most thrilled about death pepper sauce, and I’ve also met Hispanic people from AZ/TX/NM who have no interest in spicy food.