• PizzaMan
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    7 months ago

    I can not wait until they figure out that no one can handle that many immigrants.

    Which is why instead of bussing them all to a singular location, immigration reform needs to take place to make it easier to track who is coming in, and to spread people out so it’s not just one community that needs to adjust.

    Why do you guys get so much enjoyment over people struggling to do the right thing?

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      7 months ago

      Becuase they’re not trying “to do the right thing”. That’s a nice strawman. Look at NY, Martha’s Vineyard. The didn’t want these people in their back yards

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        Becuase they’re not trying “to do the right thing”.

        Helping people get back on their feet, getting them the work they want is the leat we can do given that we played a hand in their countries’ respective downfalls. It was the U.S. that played the biggest role in destabilizing Latin America.

        Helping them is the right thing to do.

        Look at NY, Martha’s Vineyard. The didn’t want these people in their back yards

        That’s not really what happened with that. Martha’s Vineyard is a set of island with a small population of about 17,000. For reference, my city alone has a couple hundred thousand.

        So when they were sent shit loads of immigrants, they couldn’t handle it. The solution is to spread the load. Border states shouldn’t take the brunt of it, neither should small population centers.

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        Don’t forget he’s a communist. The right thing is you paying to support the illegals. SMH. Was can’t continue to absorb the cost is the illegal aliens. It’s breaking budgets.

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          Don’t forget he’s a communist.

          No I’m not. Communism is largely a failure of an economic system, just as capitalism is. I’m not a capitalist or a communist, both systems are broken.

          Was can’t continue to absorb the cost is the illegal aliens. It’s breaking budgets.

          Immigrants actually, generally, are beneficial for economies. When they come here, they generally do so for the work, they pay taxes, and they make businesses. Anecdotally, I know if my Costa Rican extended family was able to immigrate, they would reopen their mom and pop store here.

          https://www.cbpp.org/research/immigrants-contribute-greatly-to-us-economy-despite-administrations-public-charge-rule

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            You are a communist. You preach wealth distribution and that the rich should create a welfare state for those who won’t work. Since you like the bible so much,

            “If anyone is not willing to work, don’t let him eat"

            Once again it isn’t my job to provide for others. They need to provide for themselves. The creation of a welfare state is not the American dream.

            Not sure why you are moving the goal post. I clearly said illegal immigration.

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              7 months ago

              You are a communist

              I outright said that communism is a failure.

              I clearly said illegal immigration.

              I thought we were in agreement that the immigration process needs reformed to make it easier for people to legally immigrate? I was operating under that assumption.

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                7 months ago

                and capitalism is a great success. Our standard of living is amazing in this country. Sweden is another great example of capitalism working.

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                  and capitalism is a great success

                  No it isn’t. Both systems are failures.

                  Sweden is another great example of capitalism working.

                  So you would be ok with a Swedish version of capitalism? Including a generous welfare state?

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                    No, capitalism is a success. Our poorest people live better than most people in the world.

                    So you would be ok with a Swedish version of capitalism? Including a generous welfare state?

                    Sure, why not? It would never work here because we do not have the culture of the Swedish. We would be bankrupt in a few years and civil war would happen.

                    Sweden works because of their culture. We do not have a monoculture in this country. We have too many lazy people who would just try to milk the system as we do now.