• Kyrgizion@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    No idea if it’s similar to our situation, but here in Flanders it’s illegal to post images of people in the act of committing a crime, since they get the same identity protections as anyone else (innocent until officially convicted etc). So that means we’ve had several situations where store owners who were robbed still posted the images, hoping to recoup some losses or find the perpetrators, only to have to pay fines on top of their losses because they “broke the law” by outing thieves.

    Don’t even think about trying to defend yourself or your possessions, though; any force used MUST be in proportion to the threat. That means you HAVE to let people who’ve robbed you, and are no longer actively threatening you, go. Several people (mostly jewellers) are in prison because they unloaded a hunting rifle into the backs of fleeing thieves.

    Personally, I think there should be some kind of golden middle road between the EU/Canada and USA situations…

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        10 months ago

        Is it really so insane to not shoot people in the back? Use the insurance my dude, you aren’t batman.

        Too much of a coward to stand by your tough talk, Derek?

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          10 months ago

          I stand by every word. I just don’t think I’m going to convince any conservative morons. Furthermore, I don’t want to contribute to the growth of this very very sad community. It’s embarrassing how poorly the posts do.

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            10 months ago

            The posts “do poorly” because brigadiers are mass downvoting them.

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              10 months ago

              Maybe the brigaders vote this way because they think the posts aren’t welcome here. You should not tolerate the intolerance, after all.

              I’m quite glad to see it.

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                10 months ago

                Differing opinions are valued here. Trolls are not.

                If someone is acting in good faith, I look forward to the conversation. They might be surprised how much we agree on.

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                    10 months ago

                    Can you link to some comments you find to be uncivil in this community?

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            10 months ago

            I would appreciate it if you kept it civil. If you don’t wish to contribute, then please, don’t.

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              10 months ago

              How is it that calling somebody a coward is considered civil, but calling a group a bunch of morons not?

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                10 months ago

                I find I tend to give more leeway to those who have posted here before in good faith. Eli fits that bill, as does you. I don’t think Derek has ever posted here before (correct me if I’m wrong), and his first comment (that he didn’t delete) was calling us morons.

                You know how you said you were interested in how this community would develop? Well, I think I’ve started learning how to be a decent mod. I’ve learned from users like TJD and Karo. If they start out being uncivil, they’ll probably continue being uncivil.

                • PizzaMan
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                  10 months ago

                  Selectively applying the rules is a recipe for disaster.

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                    10 months ago

                    Maybe, and if it is, I’ll learn then. But discretion is a thing in real life, and it seems to work semi-successfully.

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          10 months ago

          How are you certain it’s cowardice and not a case of “fuck it, it isn’t worth the effort of arguing”?

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      10 months ago

      Try that in Arkansas has stand your ground law the will get shot happened a week ago home owner shot a package thief and cops said it was lawful by the home owner.

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      10 months ago

      Lmao leave it to Europe to punish the victims of crime for not being nice enough to the criminals. Fucking shithole, glad I’m not there.