A Mississippi man accused of destroying a statue of a pagan idol at Iowa’s state Capitol is now being charged with a hate crime.

A Mississippi man accused of destroying a statue of a pagan idol at Iowa’s state Capitol is now being charged with a hate crime.

    • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.worldEnglish
      575·
      10 months ago

      …If the government is going to permit one ideology to put up religious iconography on their grounds, then they must include the other religions stop and take those down.

      • Coasting0942@reddthat.com
        26·
        10 months ago

        At the moment, SCOTUS treats no belief as a separate religion. In our life times we are going to have to aim for the more achievable “all religions matter”.

        • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.worldEnglish
          133·
          10 months ago

          SCOTUS gets something wrong, what a shocker. You set your goals for how much progress you want to see in a lifetime and I’ll set mine.

        • _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz
          8·
          10 months ago

          For reference, this is what it looks like for me (desktop firefox):

          So, looks fine to me formatting-wise. I read the intent to be that (1) they’re quoting you, and (2) they’re conveying a government building should not be a place for religious iconography, at all.

          I’d be happier if there would be no religious presence in government buildings too, but alas, the SC has ruled for what we’ve got. So I suppose it’s nice at least that we’ve got TST to help ensure our governments aren’t playing favorites

        • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          10 months ago

          …If the government is going to permit one ideology to put up religious iconography on their grounds, then they must…

          …stop and take those down.

          Out of curiosity, does the earlier post’s strikethrough for the part I’ve now removed show up for you? I’ve heard that some apps don’t handle all of the formatting options particularly well.

        • Agrivar@lemmy.world
          1·
          10 months ago

          FWIW, I’m reading this thread in a Firefox browser on a PC and only the bolding works for me. I see the double-tildes at either end of what should be struck out text.

    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
      301·
      10 months ago

      I’d put it on par with trespassing into a church and breaking the crosses. It’s destruction of other people’s shit because of the religion it represents but with no additional implications

    • prole@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      6·
      10 months ago

      Christians demand that acceptance while refusing it (literally to the point of violence) to anyone else.

  • Veedem@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1251·
    10 months ago

    Ain’t it a bitch when OTHERS use the right you thought only you’d be able to use? What a dumbass.

    • machinin@lemmy.world
      43·
      10 months ago

      Many Christians probably believe that these laws were made for everyone except them. If you go to more conservative sites discussing the matter, they would probably be asking why people aren’t charged for hate crimes against Christians. It’s part of their persecution complex.

      • TheDoozer@lemmy.world
        251·
        10 months ago

        “Charged with a hate crime for what?”

        “For saying Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas! Starbucks changed to just a red cup so that’s a hate crime too! Schools are trying to stop coaches from making kids on their teams pray! And trans people exist! Hate crimes!!”

  • Kid_Thunder@kbin.social
    108·
    10 months ago

    she has accused the Satanic Temple of making filings that “are only meant to evoke strong emotions and incite others.”

    Uh yeah, it isn’t a secret or anything.

    What’s next? Is she going to say “I don’t think they actually believe in Baphomet either!”

    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
      56·
      10 months ago

      “How dare you sue me for the crimes you passively goaded me into committing in your attempt to prove the value of the law”

    • tacosanonymous
      9·
      10 months ago

      As a Satanist myself, I honestly think that would/should be their lawyers case.

      We are atheists and the argument that we’re not really a religion is something conservative courts might believe.

      I haven’t looked into any filings for religious exemption/status, etc so I’m not sure how we’ve made our case in the past. I think we should be prepared to advocate that our mutual belief in the seven tenets is our religion.

      • barsoap
        6·
        10 months ago

        Here in Germany religions and world-views have equal status, and if Baphomet is a symbol of your specific brand of atheism and its values then desecrating it is, well, desecration: An insult of those values.

        Zen folks also aren’t religious in the western understanding, the whole distinction is a western construct, yet I don’t doubt burning down a Zen temple would be considered a hate crime even by Christians.

        From what I understand the legal situation in the US is actually similar. When people started the Sudburry school they had a look at the options and went straight-ahead for making it a denominational school as it offered the best conditions and flexibility. They specifically created a humanist creed just for that founding.

        Push come to shove, lessons to learn? More architecture, more fancy robes and chants.