• Aloso@programming.dev
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      It is so frustrating when a conspiracy narrative is mixed with valid criticism, which ultimately only taints the criticism by association with the “conspiracy.”

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    I’m happy to eat bugs. Lobsters are basically bugs.

    Don’t conflate the ecologically sustainable practice of bug-eating with American fascist secret service bullshit.

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      Lobsters are basically bugs

      I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I find it disgusting to eat animals like shrimp or lobster because they look too similar to insects to me.

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    Where did the bug eating talk start? I’ve not been offered any bugs since those grasshopper candies from Archie McPhee when I was a kid. Is it another dog whistle thing?

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      It’s a far right conspiracy theory, that OP’s trying to tie to legit criticism of the CIA’s atrocities despite having nothing to do with each other-- all in order to try to hide the fact that it’s literally part of the Great Replacement conspiracy.

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      I’ve seen some scientists talk about it, but not as a “mwahahaha, we’re going to force these people to eat bugs!” kinda deal like some people seem to imply, but more just as a “this is more efficient for growing protein than traditional livestock, so there would be environmental benefits if we can persuade people to switch to it” sorta deal.

      Frankly I feel like a lot of the discussion is kinda silly, advocating that there would be benefits if people try to replace some of their meat intake with insect protein is not the same thing as forcing people to eat bugs. The intention behind advocating that is not malicious, they don’t mean just any old bugs but generally farm raised ones, and besides, people already eat bugs anyway. Plenty of cultures throughout the world have dishes involving them in various ways, and beyond that, even in the western countries that a lot of this discussion happens in to my knowledge, people eat very bug-like creatures all the time as long as those creatures live underwater. Shrimp for instance.

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        For it to make sense, You have to begin with the premise that ecology is a lie created by scientists to make money. 

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      EU approved few insects for consumption as a novelty food and will need to pass defined standards and inspections.

      But conservatives, even in US used that as an argument that they will make us feed bugs.

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        I’m so confused. Almost every candy store where I grew up sold cricket and scorpion lollipops. They sell them at the airport in my city too. Why are people in suddenly going crazy about shit that’s been happening for decades? And it’s not even the same country that’s changing the laws?

        Not only that the hasn’t the fda approved a certain about of bugs per batch or whatever in food for decades? Aren’t like M&Ms shells made with bug shells or something? Don’t worry, I’m about to double check myself, I’m just so bewildered.

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      for me it’s been since expo 2000 and I would be actually interested.
      Crispy high protein snacks with a low ecological foot print? shut up and take my money!

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        Most people don’t even know his name. But yeah, 2030 is approaching fast, gotta get the world ready for fascism and servitude.

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          I’m gonna lob you a softball. Don’t miss it. Both parties in the US suck, but one is openly courting fascists. Which is it?

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            I don’t care about politics at all. You tell me. If I wanted to argue with people online, I would probably love politics though.

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    “The CIA did some shit in the 80s, so it’s totally legit to claim vaccines make your dick fall off”

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      I’m not gonna click that link but who in their right mind connects refusal of eating bugs with racism?

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    I ser by some of the comments here that the some of the reddit trolls found Lemmy.

    That was too quick for my comfort.

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        Yeah, professional disinformation disseminators are relentless. A takedown of certain nationstates will be required to stop them.

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          yes, and I’m sure we’ll have time to do that when our food supply chain starts to collapse in the next two years. /s

          Edit: sarcasm translation—when the earth goes up in flames in a few years, we won’t have resources to enforce the Pax Americana anymore.

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      Don’t worry, we don’t have long enough left to institute an insect food delivery system of any note. Pretty soon the bugs will be eating us.

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        You’re so pessimistic. most of the remainder of humanity will be agrarian communities again within 50 years. I think it will take longer for the ocean to die. So we likely have a whole hundred years left!

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          You’re unrealistically optimistic. The earth will cook us off the face of the planet along with 90% of species. It’s starting now and will take a few years to really get moving.

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    I mean we still don’t even know the full extent of what they did through the previous century. There are a couple of very noteworthy acknowledged coup or assassination attempts (and successes), but how many others are there? You’ll still often get labelled a conspiracy theorist for talking about some of the other cases.

    I don’t know how many potential examples there are, but my standout example is Australia. Australia’s 1975 constitutional crisis was set off by a Governor General who had been a member of a secretly-CIA-funded organisation, and the US had just recently sent someone known as “the coupmaster” (for his involvement in other coups) to Australia as their ambassador. A CIA contractor of the time says that the GG had been described within the CIA as “our man”. And there was motive, in the form of the relatively leftist nature of the Australian Government at the time, and their threats to shut down the Joint Defence Facility at Pine Gap, a jointly-operated CIA/ASIO spy centre. Australian politics has heaved towards the neoliberal in the time since the alleged coup.

    But it has never been formally acknowledged, and it’s still only based on circumstantial evidence. Depending on who you’re talking to, professing to believe there was CIA involvement will get you labelled a conspiracy theorist. I suspect there are probably other countries with similar stories.

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    Okay but why don’t you want to eat bugs? Proteins are proteins you know.

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    If you’re railing against being made to eat bugs yeah you’re a conspiracy theorist. They’re a perfectly fine meat replacement, though I’ll stick with beans like I think most people will want to

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      We would all be just a little better off as a whole if we ate some beans instead of a steak more often than not.

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        Yeah that’s why I’ve not eaten land meat for over a year (I occasionally indulge in sustainable fish). I think one major barrier to people is they don’t get how fucking cheap and lazy you can be with meatless meals. And it’s not like I don’t miss meat but physically I’m in great shape, I’m healthy, I eat lazily, and my food is very good. Not much cooking is easier than throwing a can of beans into some water with taco seasoning, reducing it, and slapping it in a tortilla with your toppings of choice.

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        Sanity is not playing in to mainstream discourse anymore. The loonies are out and have been empowered. Best we can do is try to get them back on their meds and professional help.

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      Yeah if you’re dosed with LSD or your democratically elected left wing government gets couped, check if the cia did it. If a bunch of capitalists are trying to figure out how to get people to eat more sustainable protein and think bugs are the answer, idk doesn’t sound very cia. Not enough drugs or anti communism

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      My brother uses the history of the CIA to justify his support of Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. If that doesn’t really make any sense to you, it doesn’t to me either.